Darrell 09:52 PM 02-24-2009
Originally Posted by Dan:
Further down, where the shadow is, there are actually two clean round holes that go in further.
Pic?
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Sauer Grapes 10:04 PM 02-24-2009
Originally Posted by SilverFox:
You don't need to do a tap test in my opionion it is beetle for sure, I would be willing to bet that little white sluggy looking thing is the critter (in larval stage) himself.
:-) 100% correct.
I'd send them back.
What kind of cigar was it? What vendor?
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Cigary 10:35 PM 02-24-2009
Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe:
It could be a beetle hole... but I have never seen one so chewed up before. All of the beetle holes I have seen have been very clean, round holes. :-)
I agree with Joe on this one,,,could be that your Beetles are a bit messy or are in bad need of some dental work.
:-)
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s15driftking 10:37 PM 02-24-2009
Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes:
What kind of cigar was it? What vendor?
i second this!
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Silound 11:47 PM 02-24-2009
I've seen a lot of beetles at work before, and you sir have a beetle larva munching away on your cigar. That's what the little off-white colored thing is at the end of the hole in the picture.
The channel where he chewed clearly shows small round particulate matter, which is consistent with larva excretions.
Freeze the lot, or better yet get them replaced.
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Teeznutz 11:52 PM 02-24-2009
Sorry to see this.....Good Luck!
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Genetic Defect 11:54 PM 02-24-2009
Tio Gato 05:14 AM 02-25-2009
Mikepd 08:07 AM 02-25-2009
That is what is referred to as a track. It is caused by beetles moving from side to side after partially burrowing out of the cigar. Also it appears in your picture to show two semi-matured larva. One is to the far right of that track, that whiteish looking line, the other being right in the middle of the track whaere it bends, it appears to be deeper inside the cigar and is also a pale white color. If the beetles have hatched and matured enough to this stage in these cigars, it more than likely means the cigars were exposed to poor conditions a while ago. I would bet that freezing is useless now as the beetles have all ready hatched in other cigars and have started munching the insides of other cigars. If you can return them i would do that, otherwise i'd likely smoke one and see how it is. You may be interested in taking another cigar that doesnt show damage yet and cut it open to find out beetle stages in there.
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hotreds 10:08 AM 02-25-2009
I, too, would like to know where you got these and what marca it is.
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Scottw 10:15 AM 02-25-2009
Originally Posted by Darrell:
It looks like a hole in the wrapper. When I've seen beetles eat through a stick they eat through the wrapper, binder, filler, etc. :-)
I agree, it actually looks like a small perferation.
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Scottw 10:16 AM 02-25-2009
Originally Posted by Mikepd:
That is what is referred to as a track. It is caused by beetles moving from side to side after partially burrowing out of the cigar. Also it appears in your picture to show two semi-matured larva. One is to the far right of that track, that whiteish looking line, the other being right in the middle of the track whaere it bends, it appears to be deeper inside the cigar and is also a pale white color. If the beetles have hatched and matured enough to this stage in these cigars, it more than likely means the cigars were exposed to poor conditions a while ago. I would bet that freezing is useless now as the beetles have all ready hatched in other cigars and have started munching the insides of other cigars. If you can return them i would do that, otherwise i'd likely smoke one and see how it is. You may be interested in taking another cigar that doesnt show damage yet and cut it open to find out beetle stages in there.
Holy crap, that's one heck on an explanation.
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shilala 10:22 AM 02-25-2009
I'd bet my stash on it.
Mikepd's explanation is perfect. If you're outdoorsy at all, grew up in the woods, raised animals, kept bees, or lived on a farm, you get real used to what boring larvae tracks look like.
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themoneycollector 11:08 AM 02-25-2009
Yep, you got a beetle problem
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Pat1075 11:19 AM 02-25-2009
Volusianator 11:26 AM 02-25-2009
Originally Posted by mi2az:
Ahhh
Smoke it and kill it
LOL, man I love the sound of a beetle getting fried, that snap you get is just music to my ears knowing one of those little bastages will no longer do any damage.
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borndead1 01:24 PM 02-25-2009
michael88n 01:38 PM 02-25-2009
Damn. That gives me the Heebie Jeebies.
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BC-Axeman 01:54 PM 02-25-2009
Originally Posted by Mikepd:
That is what is referred to as a track. It is caused by beetles moving from side to side after partially burrowing out of the cigar. Also it appears in your picture to show two semi-matured larva. One is to the far right of that track, that whiteish looking line, the other being right in the middle of the track whaere it bends, it appears to be deeper inside the cigar and is also a pale white color. If the beetles have hatched and matured enough to this stage in these cigars, it more than likely means the cigars were exposed to poor conditions a while ago. I would bet that freezing is useless now as the beetles have all ready hatched in other cigars and have started munching the insides of other cigars. If you can return them i would do that, otherwise i'd likely smoke one and see how it is. You may be interested in taking another cigar that doesnt show damage yet and cut it open to find out beetle stages in there.
100% agree. Great, now I've got to go inspect my entire stash or else not sleep.
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md4958 02:30 PM 02-25-2009
Originally Posted by Darrell:
It looks like a hole in the wrapper. When I've seen beetles eat through a stick they eat through the wrapper, binder, filler, etc. :-)
Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe:
It could be a beetle hole... but I have never seen one so chewed up before. All of the beetle holes I have seen have been very clean, round holes. :-)
Image
notice the tunnels on all the sticks
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