Of the old ones I put back, there's a big difference between the sublimes and beli's. Both are excellent, but the Beli's and Torps are way better than the robusto sublimes. Personally I think the Beli's are best, Scott (sofaman) thinks the torps are best.
I used to smoke these things at an outrageous clip and they still stand as one of my all-time favorites. When you get one that's truly "on", you can't find a better maduro, padrons, anejo's and Oliva blue bands included.
If I had to pick the best cigar I've ever had of those 4 I mentioned, and I've had a lot that brought tears to my eyes they were so good, the best was one I smoked around 2008 at Scott's house one night while we were watching a ball game.
He'll agree. It's one of the best cigars either of us have ever smoked. For real. :-)
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That's awesome Scott. I'm relatively new to them so I like hearing how they have aged. And a smoke is always better when it's tied to a good memory with a good friend. Thanks for sharing brother.
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This news saddens me. While I've never afforded myself the luxury of buying a box of them I have bought several 5 and 10 packs and love them. Hopefully I can find some on sale in the near future.
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They put a new band on the JJs, not long ago.
Why do they drop the good lines for unknown
new lines?

I'll stock up on JJ maddies, too.

Chemyst
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Well just pulled the trigger on a box of Beli's and a box of Sublime's off Atlantic Cigar. Couldn't beat their prices. I got a sickness.
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I'm grabbing two boxes of the belis this Friday. Thanks for spreading the sickness Kevin. :-) :-)
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Kevin is an enabler!!! :-)
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I do what I can. Mac needed no push. He's sicker than I am!
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I ordered a box of Belis from Atlantic as well. Couldn't resist at that price. I will be sad when I smoke my last JJ Maduro and there are none available. :-)
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Got the wifes blessing to grab two boxes Friday. :-) :-)
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Did she if I can order one?
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:-) :-) :-)
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I wish I had skipped this thread, these are great smokes but stocking up on them just isn't in the budget.
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one of the better maduros out there IMO, liked it a lot better than the natural.
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Same here Bill. Just wasn't impressed with the natural. Wish they had discontinued those.
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Wow, your much better than me. I normally just order and hope that either A) She's not home when the UPS man arrives or B) If she does notice that she is too preoccupied to realize what's going on. Not that she would really break my chops but she does keep a mental tally for when I break her chops about how much she spent while out shopping for clothes, shoes etc. She will usually fire back with " I don't bust your chops for all the cigars you bought this month" or my favorite " At least I will use these things on a regular basis, you have enough cigars inside to last you the rest of your life and half will just sit there for at least a year or two before you smoke them." Clearly she doesn't appreciate what a little age can do for a cigar.:-) Now that I wrote this all out I have come to the realization that I am my own worst enemy and should just learn to shut the f*ck up when she goes on her little shopping sprees.:-):-)
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I talked to a guy at Atlantic and according to him they may be getting JJ Maduros as an exclusive! Same prices as listed. That would be a very cool deal indeed.
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VERY COOL Doug! Thanks for sharing brother!
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Atlantic pretty much has an exclusive already at the price they are selling them. You'd have to be goofy to buy 'em elsewhere. I searched every site that I know of and they are about half the price of anyone else.
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Smoked a JJ Maddie lancero this weekend, very tasty!
Paid $10 for it though, with the tight draw it had it wasn't worth that much.
I hope I can snag a box of these before they are gone, chances are it won't happen.
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