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Coffee Discussion>Basic Coffee Recommendations?
longknocker 04:06 AM 10-16-2013
Originally Posted by replicant_argent:
That's the spirit! Going from grocery store floor sweepings to craft roasted beans is like going from Mickey D's to Ruths Chris. We expect a full report, including which beans and tasting notes. :-)
Received My Unclebeanz Shipment Yesterday, "Beso Espresso". Ground The Coffee Last Nite On My Baratza Encore Grinder Setting "19". This Morning I Added 3.5 Level Scoops Or 1 Tablespoon/6Oz. Filtered Water. Nice, Smooth, Sweet, Cocoa Flavor.:-) I Still Need A Little More Flavor, So I May Go Up To 4-5 Scoops/ Liter. Picked Up Some Freshly Roasted Coffee From My Local Roaster, Yesterday, Too!:-)

http://www.springhillcoffeeroasters.com
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kydsid 05:21 AM 10-16-2013
Greg another thing I noticed with my, automated pour over machine (I don't say drip machine because the technivorum and a few others are so far ahead of cheap drip machines) is that water quality matters. I filter all my water prior to use in mine, or use bottled water. There is a difference in taste imo. And even if there isn't it's better for the life of the machine to use good water to prevent scale or other issues.
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Sawyer 08:30 AM 10-16-2013
My favorite grocery store coffee is Eight O' Clock. It is nothing special but it does the trick for a backup.
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Blak Smyth 08:40 AM 10-16-2013
Originally Posted by kydsid:
water quality matters.
This is a really good point, I use bottled water for my coffee.
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mosesbotbol 08:51 AM 10-16-2013
Originally Posted by Blak Smyth:
This is a really good point, I use bottled water for my coffee.
Don't use distilled water. Some mineral content is need for flavor so says my co-worker who's super into coffee. Minerals help "pull" some of the coffee material that adds to flavor.

We are lucky in Boston that our tap water is very good and no need to filter or use bottled water
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longknocker 12:48 PM 10-16-2013
I Always Use Filtered Water From My GE Filtered Ice/Water Dispenser From My Fridge. I Tried Actually "Weighing" My Coffee This Afternoon & Found Out 60Gm. Of The Particular Coffee I Was Using Was Only 4 Level Coffee Scoops!!!:-) Guess I Need To Weigh Each Time For Awhile. Coffee Was Much Smoother & Richer.:-) Thanks For All The Advice, My Friends; Keep It Coming!:-)
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pektel 01:42 PM 10-16-2013
Originally Posted by mosesbotbol:
Don't use distilled water. Some mineral content is need for flavor so says my co-worker who's super into coffee. Minerals help "pull" some of the coffee material that adds to flavor.

We are lucky in Boston that our tap water is very good and no need to filter or use bottled water
That's interesting. My tap water is no where near acceptable for coffee, so I use the RO faucet on the sink. I use that water for everything. But I don't think RO water has minerals in it.
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Blak Smyth 01:56 PM 10-16-2013
Originally Posted by mosesbotbol:
Don't use distilled water. Some mineral content is need for flavor so says my co-worker who's super into coffee. Minerals help "pull" some of the coffee material that adds to flavor.

We are lucky in Boston that our tap water is very good and no need to filter or use bottled water
No I use bottled (Filtered water)
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GreekGodX 02:58 PM 10-16-2013
Originally Posted by longknocker:
I Always Use Filtered Water From My GE Filtered Ice/Water Dispenser From My Fridge. I Tried Actually "Weighing" My Coffee This Afternoon & Found Out 60Gm. Of The Particular Coffee I Was Using Was Only 4 Level Coffee Scoops!!!:-) Guess I Need To Weigh Each Time For Awhile. Coffee Was Much Smoother & Richer.:-) Thanks For All The Advice, My Friends; Keep It Coming!:-)
I found out a long time ago measuring cups are not very accurate. I always go by weight.
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kydsid 03:41 PM 10-16-2013
Originally Posted by pektel:
That's interesting. My tap water is no where near acceptable for coffee, so I use the RO faucet on the sink. I use that water for everything. But I don't think RO water has minerals in it.
RO water has minerals. Much much less than other sources but more than distilled and enough for coffee. This was at least the line we used along with some data when I sold culligan ro systems. :-)
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replicant_argent 05:16 PM 10-16-2013
Originally Posted by pektel:
That's interesting. My tap water is no where near acceptable for coffee, so I use the RO faucet on the sink. I use that water for everything. But I don't think RO water has minerals in it.
RO water does not.


Having been a "water guy" (selling RO, iron treatment and softeners) and having some training and certs in it, I remember at least a little bit :-)
People who will try to tell you "RO is bad for you" probably don't have a smidgen of actual knowledge or training, but may have read some creative intrawebz sites.

Filtered water is good. It will take out off flavors, some chemicals, turbidity, improving taste and aesthetics. Change those filters out, and sanitize the system if possible, at regular intervals if allowed by design of the equipment.

I use RO for all consumables, ice to cooking to coffee. I have been told my coffee doesn't suck, to paraphrase more than a compliment or two fired my way.
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replicant_argent 05:25 PM 10-16-2013
Originally Posted by kydsid:
RO water has minerals. Much much less than other sources but more than distilled and enough for coffee. This was at least the line we used along with some data when I sold culligan ro systems. :-)
RO systems, in optimal conditions, are fed soft water, which, by definition, removes calcium carbonate, which is the hardness, or "minerals" most commonly referred to in water treatment jargon. Depending of the efficiency of the actual RO unit, the TDS levels are very very low, and comparable enough to distilled to make no essential difference.
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longknocker 05:25 PM 10-16-2013
Originally Posted by GreekGodX:
I found out a long time ago measuring cups are not very accurate. I always go by weight.
:-) Found Out The SCAA Coffee Guidelines Were 9-11Gm. Coffee/6Oz.Filtered Water. That Would Come Out To 63-77 Gm. For My Technivorm. "Sweet Marias" Site Recommended 68 Gm.
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kydsid 06:07 PM 10-16-2013
Originally Posted by replicant_argent:
RO systems, in optimal conditions, are fed soft water, which, by definition, removes calcium carbonate, which is the hardness, or "minerals" most commonly referred to in water treatment jargon. Depending of the efficiency of the actual RO unit, the TDS levels are very very low, and comparable enough to distilled to make no essential difference.
That's what I said, just less technical. :-)
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mosesbotbol 05:47 AM 10-17-2013
Originally Posted by GreekGodX:
I found out a long time ago measuring cups are not very accurate. I always go by weight.
How did making a pot of drip coffee get so involved?
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kydsid 07:11 AM 10-17-2013
Originally Posted by mosesbotbol:
How did making a pot of drip coffee get so involved?
Right around the time you could spend $300 on a 'drip' machine like the technivorum that Greg bought.
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mosesbotbol 09:18 AM 10-17-2013
Originally Posted by kydsid:
Right around the time you could spend $300 on a 'drip' machine like the technivorum that Greg bought.
I have a decent espresso setup for over a decade and never had to jump through so many hoops... Maybe he is over thinking it?
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replicant_argent 09:26 AM 10-17-2013
Originally Posted by mosesbotbol:
I have a decent espresso setup for over a decade and never had to jump through so many hoops... Maybe he is over thinking it?
Like guys "over think" their cigars? :-)
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pektel 12:10 PM 10-17-2013
If I drank a lot of coffee, I'd probably spend the cash on a good machine. But since I only drink a cup or two at a time, the French press works great.

The only thing I've spent over $100 on is a breville smart grinder. I don't grind until the water gets to temp. That's about as technical as I get with my coffee.

I try to keep the KISS principle at the forefront of daily routine activities. But it did take effort/trial and error before figuring out the most efficient way to do things. I've even gone so far as to figuring out the quickest-moving traffic lane to drive in through different parts of town to spend the least amount of time driving.

Now that I think about it, efficiency ain't so simple after all...
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longknocker 05:35 PM 10-17-2013
Originally Posted by kydsid:
Right around the time you could spend $300 on a 'drip' machine like the technivorum that Greg bought.
"True"!:-) "68" Gm. Seemed A Little Strong This Morning With The Uncle Beanz. Think I'll Try The Low End @ 63 Gm.:-)
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