Sonic04GT 12:44 AM 12-20-2011
I find it kind of weird that a store as reputable as Spec's would purchase or stumble upon fake cigars. I noticed both of their stores I've been to (in different cities) have smaller locked humidors within the walk-in that contain these.
I'm going to the other store tomorrow so I'll see what those look like.
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Dave128 09:10 AM 12-20-2011
At my B&M, the '26s get locked up, not the '64s. At least, that's what I found this weekend.
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HumanAsh 10:45 AM 12-20-2011
The 1964 maduro is absolutely an all-time favorite of mine, no question. One of the top few cigars on the market at any price imo, while the 26s are certainly no slouch, I prefer the 64s. That said, I agree with some of the others in this thread that based on those pics there is a chance they're fakes. If the shop has a good reputation they're probably real, but make sure that 2nd band is there and looks like the other pic posted here. I've never seen a fake one before, but I have heard from many sources that they do exist.
If you're unsure, I heard about some website that has 100% guaranteed authentic ones and sells singles for prices like the ones you see there....... ;-)
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RevSmoke 10:47 AM 12-20-2011
First, there should be 2 bands, a second one under the top band. On the band underneath there will be a serial number (see Brian's picture in post #4 in this thread). If need be, take one out and look to see if there are two bands. If not, put it back and walk away.
Yes, I agree that the colors of the two wrappers should be closer. I have never seen PAM '64 maduros look that dark.
If these are legit - or you can get legitimate PAM '64 Principes, I love the maduro better than the natural.
Peace of the Lord be with you.
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Doctorossi 11:13 AM 12-20-2011
Originally Posted by RevSmoke:
Yes, I agree that the colors of the two wrappers should be closer. I have never seen PAM '64 maduros look that dark.
Right. And I've never seen the naturals look that light (or, more precisely, yellow-greenish and "Connecticut-y"), either.
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AmsterDan 12:16 PM 12-20-2011
Originally Posted by Doctorossi:
Right. And I've never seen the naturals look that light (or, more precisely, yellow-greenish and "Connecticut-y"), either.
Agreed ... The serial number wasn't visible in the pictures, maybe because of the band covering them up, so the next thing you can look for is colour. First off all, as mentioned before, they are too light (which I didn't notice until I read this) but what I did notice is the difference in colours.
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Sonic04GT 04:58 PM 12-20-2011
ApexAZ 05:26 PM 12-20-2011
Some of those appear to have serial numbers.
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Sonic04GT 06:08 PM 12-20-2011
Originally Posted by ApexAZ:
Some of those appear to have serial numbers.
Yeah most of them did. Damn those things are pricey though.
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Neuromancer 06:24 PM 12-20-2011
Originally Posted by Sonic04GT:
Yeah most of them did. Damn those things are pricey though.
But they're just so yummy...
:-)
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Originally Posted by Sonic04GT:
Yeah most of them did. Damn those things are pricey though.
Yeah, real stuff tends to be that way.
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Sonic04GT 06:46 PM 12-20-2011
$10 a stick ain't bad but I can't convince myself to spend $20+.
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kaisersozei 08:33 PM 12-20-2011
Originally Posted by icehog3:
I prefer the maduro on the '64s, and the natural on the '26s.
Tom is wise
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DaBear 10:36 PM 12-20-2011
Those are some pretty damn good prices there. I know we tend to be a little on the pricier side with being in a mall and all, but those are some damn good prices there.
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Retiredguy 10:41 PM 12-20-2011
My favorite cigars, maduro or natural.
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Sonic04GT 10:51 PM 12-20-2011
Originally Posted by DaBear:
Those are some pretty damn good prices there. I know we tend to be a little on the pricier side with being in a mall and all, but those are some damn good prices there.
Yeah I compared them to Cigar.com and was pretty impressed.
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South Shield 10:56 PM 12-20-2011
I still can't get over the 2 different prices, one for cash and one for credit. Also the price sticker looks like I'm buying something out of an auto place warehouse.
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Zeuceone 10:58 PM 12-20-2011
In the first picture the two natural color sizes are different colors.
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liltim 12:01 AM 12-21-2011
Great smoke, I've never tried the maduro but I definitely plan on it. I don't think they are fakes, I have seen a few where the inner band will shift up behind the outer band covering up the serial number. The price looks good too. I have seen them go for much more in Cali.
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Pat1075 12:16 AM 12-21-2011
sometimes the S/N is on the side of the underband like on the one I'm smoking right now. just my 2 cents
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