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awsmith4 12:28 PM 01-20-2012
Originally Posted by poker:
In my earlier days AF's are what I smoked most beside Padrons. The Don Carlos and Hemmingway lines were my fav's.
Mine too Kelly.

I haven't smoked a lot of NCs lately but here's a small list from recent smokes

Exceeded:
El Primer Mundo Liga Miami
Tatuaje Face - Figured it would just be all hype but was a great smoke
Avo Domaine - I love these
Cain Daytona and F - Still weren't my cup of tea but were better than I expected

Did Not Exceed:
Opus X - Received as a gift for Christmas. Tight draw and just didn't taste good
Cain - the regular, all strength and nothing else
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NCRadioMan 12:32 PM 01-20-2012
Can't stand Fuente's. Except the Anejo's and WOAM's. Others can rot as far as I'm concerned. :-)

The last time I had very high expectations was my first Opus back in '05. From that point till now, I don't let my myself expect anything with a new cigar.
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smokinpeace 12:55 PM 01-20-2012
Originally Posted by kelmac07:
All??? only one person said they didn't care for Fuentes. :-) :-)
Two of the first five posts singled out Fuente. That was the "all" I was referring to.
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Blak Smyth 12:58 PM 01-20-2012
Okay all this Fuente talk has got my gears turning.

Exceded expectations:
AF WOAM (Oh my sooo good)
AF SS (So tasty)

Dissapointed:
Opus X (Thought it would be more flavorful and expect that much strength)
AF Best Seller (I think it was, had cedar wrap. Didn't enjoy)
AF Anejo (Expectations where way to high for me, still enjoyed though)
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wayner123 02:00 PM 01-20-2012
Looking back over the years I have put together a simple list. It's not conclusive, but it gives you an idea of my palette.

Exceeded my expectations:
Hirsch y Garcia Panatela
Reserva Mira Flor lancero (Original release)
Famous Nic 3000
WOAN (the lighter brother)
Viaje Platino
Brickhouse
SLR Regios
Por Larranaga Lonsdale
Vegas Robaina Don Alejandro
Quinteros Breva
Qd'O Coronas Claro

Failed to meet my expectations:
Pretty much any Illusione except for the Holy Lancero
Tatuaje El Triunfador OR
Tatuaje Black Corona Gorda OR
Fuente God of Fire series
Most AVO's
RASS
Cohiba Siglo Series
Taboada custom roll
Reynaldo custom roll

I do want to point out the reasoning behind my lists. I try my best not to base a cigar off of others reviews. However, in the simple process of reading the forums I get inundated with hype, simple reviews, etc that seem to stick with me and lead me to the 'conclusion' before I have sampled them. It's a real conundrum.
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Blak Smyth 02:05 PM 01-20-2012
Everytime I see somebodys list I remember another cigar to add:

Dissapointed:
Brickhouse
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irratebass 02:17 PM 01-20-2012
Originally Posted by Blak Smyth:
Everytime I see somebodys list I remember another cigar to add:

Dissapointed:
Brickhouse
:-) 1st the Undercrown and now the Brickhouse :-)

We def don't have the same palete heh.
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Blak Smyth 02:19 PM 01-20-2012
Originally Posted by irratebass:
:-) 1st the Undercrown and now the Brickhouse :-)

We def don't have the same palete heh.
Yup I was shocked when I didn't like these, actually it's not that I didn't like them, it's that they just didn't live up to the hype for me. Not as good as what I was expecting.
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688sonarmen 02:25 PM 01-20-2012
Exceeded

Casa Magna Domus Limitada
AF magnum r52
EPC Core maduro
Sancho Panaz maduro
Tatuaje red label
Tatuaje pork tenderloin

Disappointing

Tatuaje Face
Tatuaje Face
Tatuaje Face
LP T52
LP 9
LP dirty rat
Tatuaje Barclay Rex
NHC EL house blend
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Doctorossi 02:46 PM 01-20-2012
Originally Posted by Blak Smyth:
Dissapointed:
Brickhouse
That one, for me, went like this...

Exceeded my expectations:

final third of Brickhouse Toro

Underwhelmed:

first two thirds of Brickhouse Toro

:-)
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maninblack 04:01 PM 01-20-2012
Originally Posted by irratebass:
:-) 1st the Undercrown and now the Brickhouse :-)

We def don't have the same palete heh.
I agree Mickey. I freaking love the UC's! One man's trash, blah blah blah........
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Bill86 04:16 PM 01-20-2012
I'll keep this NC for the most part

Exceeded
Illusione HL Candela (green wrapper and it's good? I was shocked for sure)
Cruzado CG size
Anejo Shark (Construction issues but it was tasty)
Viaje Satori
Tatuaje T110
Tatuaje Pork Tenderloin
Opus X DC
PL Encantos (I scored it a 92 out the gate, I'll be hunting a box or two for sure)
CoLa (Any year, always great)
Hoyo Ep 2 (Great change of pace cigar for me)

Disappointed
Behike 54 (twice, definitely not as good as they should be)
PL Robusto RE (Encantos are much better fresh and a better size)
Viaje 50-50 Black (I even liked the Oro & Platino better)
Viaje TNT (Very boring, lasts too long)
Tat Drac (VERY boring, tossed it halfway)
Tat Frank (good but not great, nothing special)
Every CC Churchill I've tried (won't list all of them but none of them delivered for me :-))
Every other Opus X I've had (I don't get these at all)
Viaje S&B (second release)
RASS (Always mediocre no matter what year I've had)
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schollianmj 09:50 PM 01-20-2012
Exceeded:
Undercrown
601 Blue
Tat Black
Short Story
Cafe Con Leche
Diesel UHC

Failed:
Drrew Estate Red Eye
Java
Nub Maduro
Bohemian
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irratebass 10:35 PM 01-20-2012
Exceeded

Cain Daytona No.4
RP ITC 10th Anniversary
Nica Libre Diplomatico
Moya Maduro
Tatuaje 7th Capa Especial
Graycliff 1666 Double Espresso
Tat M-80
DPG Firecracker
AF SS
Tat Verocu #5
Diesel UHC
5 Vegas 1890 Limited Reserve
Kristoff Kristiana
RP Cameroon
Opus X
Man O' War Puro Authentico
Felipe Dominicana
5 Vegas "AAA"
Casa De Garcia Maduro
AB American Classic Blend
Diablo Picantes
Tat Havana VI
Nub Habana Plus
Partagas Classic
Cohiba Red Dot
Partagas Spanish Rosado
RP 1961
Rolando Reyes Aliados
CAO Italia
Camacho Maduro
Indian Tabak Maduro
Isla Del Sol Sunblessed
Acid One
601 Blue Maduro
Don Rafael Victor Sinclair
Man O' War
Cu-Avana Intenso
Oliva Series O Churchill
San Cristobal
Tat Anarchy
LP Undercrown
AF Rosado
Nat Sherman
Macanudo Vintage 97
Perdomo Habano
Jamie Garcia Especial
Villager 1888
Camacho Triple Maduro
Cuvee Blanc
Brickhouse
Macanudo Cru Royale

Disappointed

Joy De Nicaragua Celebration
Tat The Face
Gurkha European Selection Maduro
Abam Churchill
Indios Puros
Quorum
CAO Earth Nectar
Acid 5
Patel Bros Next Generation
Pinar Del Rio Exclusivo
El Triunfador
La Gloria Cubana
Zino Platinum
AVO XO Intermezzo
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Emjaysmash 10:39 PM 01-20-2012
Originally Posted by sevans105:
You seriously had high expectations on that Carino? or was it just that god awful? Either way, :-)
What's screwed up is the moment I saw that I though the EXACT same thing! LOL
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Crownedone 10:41 PM 01-20-2012
Here are just a few


Exceeded my expectations:
Diesel UHC
Cain F
LFD air bender chisel
Don Thomas tubo maduro
Perdomo 10th anny Champaign
Saint luis rey G maduro
Undercrown
Macanudo Maduro
All Nubs
601 oscuro
Torano 1956 exodus

Failed to meet my expectations:
San Lotano Habana oval
Illusione MK
Cain Dayona
Punch Double Corona
Brickhouse
Warlock
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RevSmoke 12:09 AM 01-21-2012
Only a partial list on both ends. Remember this as well, those that exceeding my expectations were amazing. Those that fell below my expectations were not necessarily bad - they just didn't live up to my expectations.

Exceeded expectations on first encounter:
AF Anejo #50
La Flor Dominicana Coronado (every one I’ve tried)
Litto Gomez Diez (every one I’ve tried)
Oliva Vs (every one I’ve tried)
Cain Daytona 453
601 Blue
Tat Verocu #5
Kristoff

Underwhelmed on first encounter:
Oliva G (all of them I’ve tried)
Oliva blue cloth band
Romeo & Julieta Reserva
Opus X
Viaje
Liga Privada #9 Flying Pig (this was a huge failure - didn't even finish it)

Peace of the Lord be with you.
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LigaPrivadaT84 08:41 AM 01-21-2012
Exceeded
AF Hemingwayd
La Casita Criolla
LGC Serie Serie R
La Riqueza
LP T52
LP Undercrown
Litto Gomez
NHC
Oliva Serie V
Padrons
Tampa Sweethearts
Tat Petite Cazadores

Failed
LP#9
every Padron Anniversary
Tatuaje El Triunfador

Usually it is the higher priced smokes that carry a higher expecation of a quality cigar for me. For example, every Padron Anniversary I have tried over the years (with age or without) has done absolutely nothing for me while the Classic Series are one of my favorite smokes ROTT - which works out pretty well for my cigar budget.
:-)
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Silound 03:03 PM 01-21-2012
Originally Posted by Crownedone:
Here are just a few
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Warlock
Thanks for reminding me, that was a huge flop of a cigar. Superb construction, tasted like old boot leather.
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Zanaspus 09:40 AM 01-22-2012
I think, in the words of the famous bard Yogi, that half of this is 90% mental. I have found in all my hobbies, pipes, cigars, booze, snuff, food, etc. that going into something with high expectations almost always causes disappointment. The reverse is also true. I'm guessing that if folks would compare their lists, the ones that disappointed often had high expectations, and the ones that didn't carried low expectations. Yes, some won't fit, there's always those that floor us that we thought would. :-)
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