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Originally Posted by Remo:
All comes down to personal preference, from a knock down standpoint a .45 is the best round, I seem to think a 9mm is fine as I can carry 13 rounds in my compact M&P, I have seen 9mm rounds go clear through a guys head at 25 yards (he stopped his criminal behavior at that point). But you need good ammo in whatever you are going to carry :-) that is the key!

I'm sure that isn't all that stopped.

Originally Posted by garryyjr:
I'm sure that isn't all that stopped.

All life function as well,,,,good riddance!

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox:
What aspect of a caliber do you guys look for in a self defense round? I'm still looking around for a good handgun for self defense, and I like the 10mm auto round. G29 and G20 seems to be up my alley for a first handgun. I've shot both guns and they are fun to shoot. From what I've read, penetration is key. Not bullet size.

Penetration and size of wound cavity are important. Bigger bullet= bigger cavity. If its a carry gun get something u will actually carry. A .380 that's on u is better than a .45 at home. That said my carry gun is a kahr cw45 in 45acp.

:-) I just picked up a 10/22 Take down! Not the I-tac I wanted but another cool 10/22 to have around, great for running and gunning in the need arises.

:-)

Originally Posted by Remo:
All comes down to personal preference, from a knock down standpoint a .45 is the best round, I seem to think a 9mm is fine as I can carry 13 rounds in my compact M&P, I have seen 9mm rounds go clear through a guys head at 25 yards (he stopped his criminal behavior at that point). But you need good ammo in whatever you are going to carry :-) that is the key!

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9mm with HydroShocks work pretty well, but down here we don't have to worry about penetrating a bunch of layers of clothes either. For that I have something special :-)

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Nice M&P, Remo. I've been on the look out for a M&P45 full size with thumb safety for a few months now. I have a request at my old shop, if any of the vendors gets one in stock to snatch it up for me.

I have the full size 9 also and love them both

I was looking at the M&P in 9 and 40 at my local shop this week, but ending up walking out with the G17. Between those two and the XD, the ergos of the M&P seemed to suit me the least (I was kind of surprised at that). I still haven't had a chance to test out the ergos on the XDM

Originally Posted by spectrrr:
I was looking at the M&P in 9 and 40 at my local shop this week, but ending up walking out with the G17. Between those two and the XD, the ergos of the M&P seemed to suit me the least (I was kind of surprised at that). I still haven't had a chance to test out the ergos on the XDM

I am just the opposite, the m&p suits me better than my 17 ever has

:-)

Had my first KB! Not too bad, it was more of a case rupture. But it's kinda funny how it played out. All was shooting fine then all of a sudden the mag falls out of the gun, I look down and just did a, wtf again? Then all of sudden owww my hand starting hurting. Looking my hand over no blood

:-) all fingers are there

:-) then I look closer and see the outline of the mag release along my palm covered in black burns and also on my trigger finger, I thought it was kind of funny; only because I wasn't hurt.

Gun checked out ok and the grouping I was shooting for was nice and tight!

If your wondering about the "mag falling out again" part. Story behind that was I was shooting during a class using my G22 and during my run I saw my mag fall out. Kind of embarrassing but did a quick reload and continued my run trying not to laugh. :-)

Kinda scary bro

what gun were you shooting at the time?

My G19 the rounds were mine. 124 grain vitavouri n330 I think forgot the grain I reload at a friends place. I'm hoping it was just one of those weakened case failures because my 228 and carbine seem to like these rounds and judging by the grouping that I got the 19 likes them as well.

Originally Posted by Remo:
All comes down to personal preference, from a knock down standpoint a .45 is the best round, I seem to think a 9mm is fine as I can carry 13 rounds in my compact M&P, I have seen 9mm rounds go clear through a guys head at 25 yards (he stopped his criminal behavior at that point). But you need good ammo in whatever you are going to carry :-) that is the key!

Isn't knock down power a myth though? Just reading some last night and it seems kinetic energy does not wound and temporary cavity does not wound. Which both are the result of the larger amount of energy from the larger bullet right?

Originally Posted by emopunker2004:
Penetration and size of wound cavity are important. Bigger bullet= bigger cavity. If its a carry gun get something u will actually carry. A .380 that's on u is better than a .45 at home. That said my carry gun is a kahr cw45 in 45acp.

Do you mean permanent cavity when you say wound cavity?

Knockdown power is a myth but hydrostatic shock is not a myth. And yes I meant perm wound cavity.

Originally Posted by emopunker2004:
Knockdown power is a myth but hydrostatic shock is not a myth. And yes I meant perm wound cavity.

Gotcha thanks:-)

This is a good read about ammo choices for self defense,

http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_De..._FAQ/index.htm

Originally Posted by bonjing:
This is a good read about ammo choices for self defense,

http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_De..._FAQ/index.htm

Awesome, thanks for the link. Will read shortly.

Well I'm working on drawing up a Living Trust so I can send in a form 1 to turn my AR-15 into an SBR :-)