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dijit 07:23 AM 12-28-2012
Originally Posted by maninblack:
A proud moment in any Dad's life, when his son gets his first real gun. My 10yr old Max, got an Old Henry Golden Boy .22 for Christmas. Just waiting for it to warm up before we go out and shoot it and I get to teach him firearm safety. Very proud.
Sweet! My boy gets his first .22 on the 31st for his birthday.
Blueface 07:26 AM 12-28-2012
The difference is penetration v. Velocity.

The lower the grain, the greater the velocity but less penetration.
The higher the grain, the more penetration but less velocity.
124 was created to find a happy medium and get a bit of both worlds, rather than more of one and not enough of the other.

As such, I try to buy the more popular 124.
CigarSquid 07:27 AM 12-28-2012
I was reading that.. So far, I think I will buy 100 or so of 115gr and 124gr and see which the guns likes and what I like..
emopunker2004 07:27 AM 12-28-2012
Originally Posted by garryyjr:
Question for you guys here.. Been shooting a long time. I have read so much about 115gr vs 124gr for 9mm.

I am trying to understand the difference and see what may be best.. for target and carry. I have been real close to ordering 100's of rounds online, to save. I have thought about the 1000 rounds or a few 100 rounds of different brands/grains.

Any suggestions? I have a Ruger LC9.
For the range I say buy what's cheapest. For carry I recommend heavy for caliber which for 9mm is 147gr or 147gr+p
Blueface 07:30 AM 12-28-2012
Originally Posted by emopunker2004:
For the range I say buy what's cheapest. For carry I recommend heavy for caliber which for 9mm is 147gr or 147gr+p
For range, agree.
for protection, I would say depends on where you live.
In Florida, penetration not an issue as seldom folks wearing layers.
In the colder areas, would consider penetration a must in the winter.
While I prefer 124 and that is the most I have, I own quite a few rounds of 115 and 147 also.
CigarSquid 07:31 AM 12-28-2012
Is there a big recoil difference in the 115, 124, 147?
dijit 07:31 AM 12-28-2012
Originally Posted by garryyjr:
Question for you guys here.. Been shooting a long time. I have read so much about 115gr vs 124gr for 9mm.

I am trying to understand the difference and see what may be best.. for target and carry. I have been real close to ordering 100's of rounds online, to save. I have thought about the 1000 rounds or a few 100 rounds of different brands/grains.

Any suggestions? I have a Ruger LC9.
It really comes down to personal preference for the most part. A lighter round will give higher velocity and slightly lower static energy (knock down power) and vice versa for a heavier round. When I had my 9mm I used 124's for target and for defense but only because at the time the Speer Gold Dot did not come in 147gr for reloading. My thought process on this really was I didnt need the high velocities of lighter bullets, because if I ever got into a self defense situation they would most likely be less than 10 ft from and I wanted to knock them down with the first shot. The heavier and faster opening JHP like gold dot, golden sabre, and black talons will deliver this in the most effective manner. Hydra Shok's arent bad either.
Blueface 07:32 AM 12-28-2012
Originally Posted by garryyjr:
Is there a big recoil difference in the 115, 124, 147?
Difference, yes.
Big? Not to me.
dijit 07:33 AM 12-28-2012
Originally Posted by garryyjr:
Is there a big recoil difference in the 115, 124, 147?
There is a slight recoil difference but if you are accustomed to your weapon it will be minimal and should not affect target acquisition very much. The heavier round will have slightly higher recoil.
CigarSquid 07:35 AM 12-28-2012
I doubt I would notice the recoil.

I guess I may buy a 50 round pack of the 3 then, 115, 124 and 147 and try them this weekend.
Steve 07:55 AM 12-28-2012
Originally Posted by maninblack:
A proud moment in any Dad's life, when his son gets his first real gun. My 10yr old Max, got an Old Henry Golden Boy .22 for Christmas. Just waiting for it to warm up before we go out and shoot it and I get to teach him firearm safety. Very proud.
Awesome Kevin! I know he's loving it :-)

My dad mentioned a few months ago that he would love to have one as well. Shortly thereafter I stumbled on one for a great price. He looked like a 10 year old boy Christmas morning when he opened it up...beat the heck out of giving him gift cards to Lowes :-)
forgop 12:09 PM 12-28-2012
Going to try my luck in finding the M&P shield in a .40. Read somewhere that 40k of them are on backorder. :-)
Blueface 12:39 PM 12-28-2012
Originally Posted by forgop:
Going to try my luck in finding the M&P shield in a .40. Read somewhere that 40k of them are on backorder. :-)
Awesome choice but will take patience and diligence to get. The hunt may even wear you down and cause you to give up.
Start here.
http://www.shoot-straight.com/
Call them daily if you have to.
They don't have them today and suddenly, one passes by the store and there they are waiting to be bought, then as fast as they came, they are gone.
This place is a large reputable outfit.
MurphysLaw 02:51 PM 12-28-2012
Originally Posted by Blueface:
Awesome choice but will take patience and diligence to get. The hunt may even wear you down and cause you to give up.
Start here.
http://www.shoot-straight.com/
Call them daily if you have to.
They don't have them today and suddenly, one passes by the store and there they are waiting to be bought, then as fast as they came, they are gone.
This place is a large reputable outfit.
+1 for using this retailer. I bought my Kimber from there last week, they gave me a discount on the price even before I had the chance to ask for their bottom dollar number.
Remo 03:01 PM 12-28-2012
My two M&P's in 9mm. Love them :-)


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Remo 03:43 PM 12-28-2012
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Love this song, from a few years back but sooooo fitting :-)
spectrrr 07:05 AM 12-29-2012
wow... just stumbled across a vendor with 90 round AR15 drum mags in stock. Selling at the relatively fair price of $130 too... Something tells me that won't last long :-)

Always wanted to get a drum mag myself... but, at that price, I can get 10x30 round mags... still haven't been able to justify it.
Blueface 11:35 AM 12-29-2012
Just got some awesome news that made my day.
My Armalite AR10 I bought 11 days ago just shipped.
As my kids would say, "are we there yet?".
Brian D. 11:44 AM 12-29-2012
Originally Posted by spectrrr:
wow... just stumbled across a vendor with 90 round AR15 drum mags in stock. Selling at the relatively fair price of $130 too... Something tells me that won't last long :-)

Always wanted to get a drum mag myself... but, at that price, I can get 10x30 round mags... still haven't been able to justify it.
Francis I've never trusted the drums to work right, generally speaking. Admittedly that's based on ones I saw some years back, in practice and competition. (No one flame me please, if you have drums that run right in your gun, more power to ya.:-))

Perhaps the ones of today have had the bugs worked out, I dunno. Good way to find out would be ask folks who shoot Three Gun matches.
thebayratt 12:51 PM 12-29-2012
I finally finished up my 1943 Mosin Nagant. It was a project I have been wanting to do for a while. I got all the cosmoline out and off of it. Then sanded the finish off the stock (left the engraved markings), stained and put 7 coats of Tru oil on it.
Took it to the range and put about 25 rounds through it. Its a fun and pretty accurate gun to shoot. Yet it kicks like a 2ton mule when bench resting it.

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