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bonjing 09:13 PM 12-27-2012
Originally Posted by big pete:
What kind of ammo are you guys using for HD (specifically in 9mm)?
In my rotation 124gr +p goldot and 147gr federal hst
big a 09:26 PM 12-27-2012
Originally Posted by Blueface:
Not really sure what you mean regarding grip.
These are not .380 weapons. They are large.
I think lack of knowledge/experience with them may have you confused.
Here is a photo with the 8 round mag (extended mag as with the XD) as opposed to dpstandard one of 7.
I have larger than average hands overall and the grip is fine.
I really think you need to see them in person, feel them, shoot them, and only then will you really know what suits you.
As for accuracy, it is false to think longer barrel guarantees that.
I can shoot a shorter barrel but heavier weapon and probably be as accurate as with any long barrel that may be lighter. The weight of the gun has a major effect on recoil, along with your choice of ammo.
Other than the extra round with the 9, any additional reason you chose this over the 40? I have been half looking for a shield and xds .45 but no one can keep them in. The largest retailer around me says the 9mm shields are all spoken for on the next couple orders at the rate their going. Just wondering what's making the 9 that much more desirable
emopunker2004 09:39 PM 12-27-2012
Andrew, I bet ammo price and recoil play a factor.
Steve 10:22 PM 12-27-2012
Originally Posted by emopunker2004:
Andrew, I bet ammo price and recoil play a factor.
And availability
spectrrr 10:28 PM 12-27-2012
Originally Posted by emopunker2004:
Well I managed to pick up 2 possibly 4 hundred round of .223 online today :-)
I just added a bunch of plinker ammo to my cart that was showing in stock. When to check out and I got this message :-)

We're sorry, Product is not currently in stock. It's expected in our warehouse on August 12, 2013 and will be shipped to you within 24 hours after its arrival.



Originally Posted by emopunker2004:
Andrew, I bet ammo price and recoil play a factor.
This.
Originally Posted by Steve:
And availability
And this.
emopunker2004 10:29 PM 12-27-2012
Originally Posted by Steve:
And availability
Eh 9, 40, and 45 can all be found pretty readily, at least online

Originally Posted by spectrrr:
I just added a bunch of plinker ammo to my cart that was showing in stock. When to check out and I got this message :-)

We're sorry, Product is not currently in stock. It's expected in our warehouse on August 12, 2013 and will be shipped to you within 24 hours after its arrival.
:-) you need to find somewhere else to buy ammo...
spectrrr 10:38 PM 12-27-2012
Originally Posted by emopunker2004:
Eh 9, 40, and 45 can all be found pretty readily, at least online



:-) you need to find somewhere else to buy ammo...
:-) prettymuch everywhere is sold out at this point. But that will improve in a few months.

Wont stop me from picking some up now on deal if I see it though! Can you ever have too much? :-)
pnoon 10:56 PM 12-27-2012
Originally Posted by emopunker2004:
No offense guys but lets keep the politics out of here for the most part so Peter doesn't walk in here and shut this thread down. :-)

As far as ammo goes, go watch tnoutdoors9 on youtube. He's done alot of ammo tests on various SD rounds.
This has nothing to do with me.

It is the ToE that would deal with any violation of the rules and guidelines the ToE has established and expects the membership to abide by. The ToE thanks all of you for your cooperation and understanding.

Oh. And Justin. :-)
emopunker2004 11:01 PM 12-27-2012
Originally Posted by pnoon:
This has nothing to do with me.

It is the ToE that would deal with any violation of the rules and guidelines the ToE has established and expects the membership to abide by. The ToE thanks all of you for your cooperation and understanding.

Oh. And Justin. :-)
:-)
I know Peter but you came in here not too long ago and issued a warning to the people in the thread, so I mentioned you and Peter... :-)
emopunker2004 11:02 PM 12-27-2012
Originally Posted by spectrrr:
:-) prettymuch everywhere is sold out at this point. But that will improve in a few months.

Wont stop me from picking some up now on deal if I see it though! Can you ever have too much? :-)
Nope. What kind of ammo you looking for?
theonlybear4CORT 11:13 PM 12-27-2012
Originally Posted by big pete:
What kind of ammo are you guys using for HD (specifically in 9mm)?
little link I found

but the hst has a wicked looking expended pedal
emopunker2004 11:25 PM 12-27-2012
Here's the youtube channel to look through

http://www.youtube.com/user/tnoutdoors9/videos?view=0
spectrrr 11:35 PM 12-27-2012
Originally Posted by emopunker2004:
Nope. What kind of ammo you looking for?
:-) lord, what am I not..

I'd say my most pressing concern is my 9mm on hand is considerably lower than the rest that I have. Besides that, .223 (always), maybe 7.62x39 if its cheap enough, I'm keeping an eye out for some mid quality .22 ammo at cut rate prices (Got a bunch of the golden bullets, but those are SH!T).

I'd also pick up anything CHEAP I found in .30 06 / .308 win / 7.62x51 - one of those calibers is on the horizon for hunting, and I figured if I get the wrong caliber, I can always trade it/sell it for the one I need later.
emopunker2004 12:03 AM 12-28-2012
9mm ball or jhp?
emopunker2004 12:07 AM 12-28-2012
7.62

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/produc...l-metal-jacket
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shoot...3Bcat104532480

9mm

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index....er_id=&sort=8a
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...115gr-9mm.html


30-06

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index....l-metal-jacket
spectrrr 01:44 AM 12-28-2012
Originally Posted by emopunker2004:
7.62

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/produc...l-metal-jacket
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shoot...3Bcat104532480

9mm

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index....er_id=&sort=8a
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...115gr-9mm.html


30-06

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index....l-metal-jacket
mmm, nice, thanks :-)
Just cheap target practice ammo for the 9mm. Pistol shooting is a skill that takes a lot of practice to perform even adequately!
Blueface 02:29 AM 12-28-2012
Originally Posted by big a:
Other than the extra round with the 9, any additional reason you chose this over the 40? I have been half looking for a shield and xds .45 but no one can keep them in. The largest retailer around me says the 9mm shields are all spoken for on the next couple orders at the rate their going. Just wondering what's making the 9 that much more desirable
As others have said, cost of ammo, availability of ammo and primary one for me, recoil. I was not sure how a .40 would be in the thinner M&P.
I had it in my hands and meant to get a .40 that day but was a last second decision to go with the nine at suggestion of my son and salesman.
From all I have spoken to, majority note minimal recoil difference.
Other than ammo, can't go wrong with either.

I recommend you check regularly with Shoot Straight. They are a big S&W dealer and seem to have them more often. That is where I got mine. They are all over Florida. Not sure if in any other states. Also, they sell them at non jacked up prices, at suggested retail of $449.
maninblack 04:15 AM 12-28-2012
A proud moment in any Dad's life, when his son gets his first real gun. My 10yr old Max, got an Old Henry Golden Boy .22 for Christmas. Just waiting for it to warm up before we go out and shoot it and I get to teach him firearm safety. Very proud.
spectrrr 06:33 AM 12-28-2012
Originally Posted by maninblack:
A proud moment in any Dad's life, when his son gets his first real gun. My 10yr old Max, got an Old Henry Golden Boy .22 for Christmas. Just waiting for it to warm up before we go out and shoot it and I get to teach him firearm safety. Very proud.
AWESOME! :-)

Some of the most cherished memories I carry of my father are of my guns and my tools, because he gave me my first ones, and taught me how to use them correctly.
CigarSquid 07:13 AM 12-28-2012
Question for you guys here.. Been shooting a long time. I have read so much about 115gr vs 124gr for 9mm.

I am trying to understand the difference and see what may be best.. for target and carry. I have been real close to ordering 100's of rounds online, to save. I have thought about the 1000 rounds or a few 100 rounds of different brands/grains.

Any suggestions? I have a Ruger LC9.
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