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King James 02:25 PM 10-10-2012
For people that would rather turn their old docks into wireless speakers instead of getting the lighting to 30-pin adapter:

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CigarNut 09:20 AM 10-11-2012
I have discovered that my iPhone 5 camera is not as good as my wife's 4S camera in low light using the flash. Going to talk to Apple about that next week...
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BHalbrooks 05:29 PM 10-11-2012
What's the Value on 4s's right now? I found out this weekend that my Father in law wants my Wife off his plan (Long story why she's on it to begin with). My Sprint contract is almost up, and I had planned on just getting my Wife an iPhone 5... Until this weekend.

So now we're gonna go to Verizon, since I have a chance to get away from the death star aka Sprint.

I honestly don't know why I just explained that entire story... :-)
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irratebass 04:14 AM 10-12-2012
Originally Posted by BHalbrooks:
What's the Value on 4s's right now? I found out this weekend that my Father in law wants my Wife off his plan (Long story why she's on it to begin with). My Sprint contract is almost up, and I had planned on just getting my Wife an iPhone 5... Until this weekend.

So now we're gonna go to Verizon, since I have a chance to get away from the death star aka Sprint.

I honestly don't know why I just explained that entire story... :-)
Not sure if this is the best site, but try www.gazelle.com I was offered $234 for my iPhone 4S, didn't take it, but was curious to see what I could get out of it.
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mhailey 02:30 PM 10-12-2012
Originally Posted by irratebass:
Not sure if this is the best site, but try www.gazelle.com I was offered $234 for my iPhone 4S, didn't take it, but was curious to see what I could get out of it.
Just checked my old phone (droid x) on Gazelle and it was worth $20. However, I sold it on ebay for $75.
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mithrilG60 02:45 PM 10-12-2012
Gazelle seems to undervalue things by quite a lot, you should almost always be able to get a better price on eBay or Craigslist. I know factory unlocked 16gb iPhone 4's are selling for about $300 in my area.
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BHalbrooks 07:31 PM 10-15-2012
I need a completely un-biased opinion.
Is it worth it to get the iPhone 5 over the 4s? I mean speed. Is the 4g crazy fast on the 5?
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King James 07:42 PM 10-15-2012
The speed is considerably faster, yes. Whether or not its worth upgrading from a 4S is dependent on other things, though. At least in my opinion.
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BHalbrooks 07:48 PM 10-15-2012
Dependent on what Sir?
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King James 07:58 PM 10-15-2012
Well I'm sure it can be different for different people. If you are happy with the 4S, if you have an upgrade available, why you need or don't need the speed increase, if you want the bigger screen, etc. I just more meant speed may not be the only thing to consider
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BHalbrooks 08:14 PM 10-15-2012
Yea, I'm only worried about speed really. The bigger screen, etc is all secondary. I want the faster phone is the bottom line.
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Sauer Grapes 09:05 PM 10-16-2012
I had the 4s and did the upgrade since I had it available (bought the 4s off contract on craigslist for $380 this spring). AT&T unlocked it for me and I sold it on craigslist this week for $420. It was the 32GB model though. I think you can get at least $300 for a 16gb and more if yours is 32 or 64gb.

I think it was worth the upgrade, but that's my humble opinion. LTE is so much better than 3g speeds. Things that rarely worked on 3g work like a champ now (Like imessage, the internet, etc.). Additionally, I hit over 30mbps on speedtest.net's app the first week I had it.
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BHalbrooks 09:47 PM 10-16-2012
On WiFi with my 4s: 17.17 download mbps 5.5 upload mbps

I can't wait to switch...
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Ender 02:39 PM 10-19-2012
I notice my i5 is faster than my wife's 4s. Doesn't blow it out of the water but it's pretty noticeable. I finally got a case for it too. I'm loving the phone so far (upgraded from the 4)
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floydpink 08:07 PM 10-19-2012
I was on a 21 day backorder from ATT for a black 16g iPhone 5 and found a Sam's Club that that had them so I cancelled my order and walked out with one last night. That was nice as I was planning on sometime near November 5 for expected delivery.

I was a little nervous after some of the "scuffgate" talk on the Mac forums but have been extremely impressed going from my 4 to the 5 and haven't had any issues with scratched back or dinged edges out of the box like some are complaining about and looked it over pretty well before paying.

I'll avoid the politics of the conditions in the China factories, but will say I think Apple has their hands full on this release and there are bugs to work out just like every other iPhone release.

I'm already looking at tents and air mattresses for the launch of iPhone 6.

The map app needs some work, but I use Waze for navigation anyway.

I haven't been overly impressed by iOS6 and am thinking an update will be good.

The LTE speeds are blazing fast and I put this in a bumper rather than the Otterbox my other was in, so it seems like such a lighter phone.

The screen might not be like a Galaxy SIII, but I have an iPad when I want a bigger screen and wouldn't trade this phone for anything currently out there, but that's just me.
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Chainsaw13 08:13 PM 10-23-2012
Ok I need some convincing in getting a 5 over a 4s. I dropped my 4 yesterday and busted up the screen.

I'm leaning towards the 4s in that I have a lot of other devices that have the older 30 pin connector, including a number of charging cables. I keep one in each bag I use for travel. I don't want to have to buy a lot of extra adapters. That's a lot of extra $$$. Also, do the adapters work on an iHome clock radio? Plus, looking on amazon, there's not too many armbands for the 5 that get decent ratings. Since I'd put a Zagg shield on it, most of the armbands with the plastic screen don't work well. At least that's what I found with my 4. Plus it's more money for a new one. I'm also not a heavy data user, so the LTE speeds wouldn't really do much for me.

The reason for a 5 is that it's the latest and greatest. Why already buy something that's old tech? And since I plan to switch to Verizon, the monthly charge would be the same whether I got a 4s or 5.
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CigarNut 08:43 PM 10-23-2012
Go for the 5... My wife has a 4S and she is envious. The 5 is faster, does LTE right, and the larger screen is handy. Yes, there are a few problems ("purple" haze photo shots, camera flash sync) that are supposed to be fixed in the upcoming software update.

For me, when I am buying something I figure that I will get the latest available as the life expectancy is that much longer. I *know* that I can get two years out of my 5, while I am sure that in the next two years there will be IOS features introduced that will work on the 5 but not on the 4S.
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King James 09:17 PM 10-23-2012
I wouldn't let the chargers dissuade you. If you stick with the 4S now, it will not be a savior but a stay of execution. The lightning connector is not going anywhere, so if you are going to stay with Apple, you will have to make the switch at some point. I have a large quantity of 30-pin chargers as well from buying apple products over the course of the 9-10 years the 30-pin was used.

It will be less convenient at first, but you should be able to manage with one adaptor to float around and have an extra charger. I'm doing fine without any adaptors.

Plus, you can always wait for some viable third party lightning cables/adaptors to get on the market (maybe they are there already)
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poker 08:09 AM 10-24-2012
Wife & I both have the older i4 (not the 4s). Apple email says both our new black/slate 64G i5's are on the way. Woot!

My UPS tracking shows they are being shipped directly from China:

Location Date Local Time Activity
Incheon, Korea, Republic of 10/23/2012 8:03 P.M. Arrival Scan
ZhengZhou, China 10/23/2012 5:25 P.M. Departure Scan
ZhengZhou, China 10/22/2012 4:20 P.M. Arrival Scan
10/22/2012 3:15 P.M. Departure Scan
ZhengZhou, China 10/21/2012 5:19 A.M. Origin Scan
China 10/22/2012 3:26 A.M. Order Processed: Ready for UPS
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aich75013 08:48 AM 10-24-2012
Originally Posted by Chainsaw13:
Also, do the adapters work on an iHome clock radio?
Bob,
I bought the lightning dock adapter when I ordered some sync cables from Apple.
I have an iHome on my nightstand and prefer to just dock it to charge at night.
If you use any type of case or bumper, the adapter won't work. I received the adapter in the mail yesterday and I ended up modifying my bumper to make it work. I took a dremel to the bumper and made the hole on the bottom larger. Works fine, but the bottom of the bumper looks a little ugly.
I checked to make sure the iPod functions properly, and everything worked just as before. It does make the iPhone sit higher than normal of course. I can snap a pic tonight if you'd like to see what it looks like.
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