http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlI-N1b-ZK8

LIGHT WEIGHT!

I have been using Volu-Gro by Nutrex, which uses 60 grams of Long Chain Waxy Maize Starch to accelerate creatine transport. Waxy Maize Starch is completely sugar free. Waxy Maize Starch acts like a pump, pulling creatine and water along with it into the bloodstream. This ensures that creatine and insulin are present in the bloodstream at the same time. A much greater amount of creatine is transported into the muscles due to synchronized levels of creatine and insulin in the blood.

how dose that taste?

Great,,,,better than any other creatine supplement I have ever used. :-)

I'm sort of in between Tom and Gerry. :-) I use Optimum Nutrition's Creatine Mono with a scoop of ON's waxy maize starch (along with some other things) immediately post training. I add flavoring because it's just starchy otherwise ... actually, it tastes real bitter because of the BCAAs that I add. One packet of Walmart brand 0-cal "fruit punch" or "raspberry ice" makes it taste yummy. LoL!

Sanitariumite: I'd be interested in that new ON NO product. Let us know how it goes if you get some. Interesting....

I need a grocery list of more stuff to get... only taking protein and WF right now

Do you really get noticable strength gains with these supplements above what you would get without them? I'm not using anything but good food and a daily multivitamin. I'll have a banana and a yogurt half hour before I go to the gym, and cook myself some dinner when I get home - usually chicken/meat/fish and a salad.

Last night was a good leg workout:

Overhead squats
95x12
105x10
105x10

Squats
135x12
155x12
185x10
205x8

1 leg Angle leg press
140x12
180x12
200x12

Angle leg press calf raise
180x15
230x15
270x15

Standing calf raise - drop set
120x15 - 105x12 - 75x15 - 45x15

back from the gym...

funny my sweat smells like alchohol... :-)

Absolutely....they aren't magic pills that make you suddenly stronger, but they allow you to train harder, recover faster, and thus gain strength quicker.

Is that anything like alcohol, Gerry? :-)

I've decided I'm going to try it out when I get the funds to re-stock. I will definitely keep y'all posted.

Oh, and anybody who's interested in trying a free VPX Meltdown sample (Advertised as being twice as effective as the renowned Ephedra/Caffeine stack) there's an offer in this month's Muscle and fitness. You have to call today or tomorrow, between 9am and 3pm Eastern time. No shipping costs, or anything, and the guy on the phone said it was a few day supply. Just call (954) 641-0570 ext 503. For me the extention didn't work, but it's an automated menu, and I figured out how to get to a representative, I think I just had to stay on the line, or hit a number or 2. He took my address and said it'd be here in 17-21 business days.

Will give this a try after my tub of Green Mag
One of the things I like about GM, Def. going to try it :-)

bought a bottle, huge crash after a couple hours. not on my list to buy again.
VPX Redline Power Rush® is better.:-)

Good to know. I figured I'd try the free sample before buying anything.

free sample can't hurt,hopefully it works better for you.

Gerry or Tom, any insight on MHP Dren?

Not familiar with that one, Perry. :-)

Looks interesting http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mhp/dren.html
only $23 might buy a bottle and be a guinea pig :-) not really looking for run thru walls energy but something to keep me motivated with out crashing.

Running through walls is fun every once in a while. Let us know how it goes, I'm interested in a decent fat-burn supplement. I take a concentrated green tea pill 2-3 times a day, but I'd like more energy, focus, and thermogenic than it offers.

Will do :-) I read of some people stacking this with E. what I read in reviews is a good appetite suppressant and the "feeling good" the whole feeling good thing may be enough for me plus its one a day.