stearns 10:10 AM 07-29-2021
I assumed price, although pour size is also good info to have (assuming 1.5-2oz)
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The camaro show 10:36 AM 07-29-2021
Prices
Says 1.75 Oz so pretty decent pour
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The camaro show 10:37 AM 07-29-2021
Would most likely be in a old fashioned if that changes anything
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longknocker 12:20 PM 07-29-2021
Originally Posted by stearns:
I assumed price, although pour size is also good info to have (assuming 1.5-2oz)
Originally Posted by The camaro show:
Prices
Says 1.75 Oz so pretty decent pour
:-)
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stearns 12:32 PM 07-29-2021
Originally Posted by The camaro show:
Would most likely be in a old fashioned if that changes anything
Maybe keep it to the under $10 options. I've had some good Old Fashioneds with nicer booze, and they do sometimes elevate the drink, but you're not gonna get a good feel for the underlying whiskey. Also always a good option to ask the bartender what they prefer for their Old Fashioneds, I've had a few where they give me some surprising answers so I usually just let them run with it. My favorite is going to a nice cocktail bar and saying "I want something like an Old Fashioned, but not an Old Fashioned, and maybe some some X (honey, orange, whatever you're in the mood for) in it." Gotta trust the bartender but if they know what they're doing you'll usually end up with something delicious
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longknocker 04:07 PM 07-29-2021
longknocker 04:09 PM 07-29-2021
Ben: When You Get A Chance, Can You List The Good Wheated Vs. Corn Bourbons??? Thanks!
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SNKBYT 06:00 PM 07-29-2021
jledou 06:46 PM 07-29-2021
It's a good list but I would pick a different "cheap" bourbon
Best Cheap Bourbon: Evan Williams Black Label
I would prefer Old Forester's Bottled in Bond or Wild Turkey 101. Both can be found around $20 a bottle typically.
The regular Four Roses often gets the best mixer but it is also an inexpensive one with a different profile from the two listed above.
A lot depends on your preference here but you can often find a lot of good bourbons from the larger distillers in the lower priced range that are better than the latest small batch boutique label that sources a young bourbon and slaps a label on it.
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longknocker 06:58 PM 07-29-2021
stearns 06:54 AM 07-30-2021
A few thoughts- I'm not a believer in these types of lists generally but this one at least hits a couple places. Best overall as Knob Creek is fair and I'm a fan, Evan Williams white (bottled in bond) is a world better than black, the ones in the "affordable" category are all good pours, the "high-end" section is all over the place but mostly on track. In general there's really nothing on the list that will disappoint. And if you find the "Grail Bourbon" at the bottom William Larue Weller please give me a call
:-)
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longknocker 07:10 AM 07-30-2021
Originally Posted by stearns:
A few thoughts- I'm not a believer in these types of lists generally but this one at least hits a couple places. Best overall as Knob Creek is fair and I'm a fan, Evan Williams white (bottled in bond) is a world better than black, the ones in the "affordable" category are all good pours, the "high-end" section is all over the place but mostly on track. In general there's really nothing on the list that will disappoint. And if you find the "Grail Bourbon" at the bottom William Larue Weller please give me a call :-)
Thanks, Brother!
:-):-). I Still Haven't Found Which Of Your Favorites Are More Wheat Vs. More Corn.
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stearns 07:27 AM 07-30-2021
Any "Bourbon" will be at least 51% corn, actual wheat whiskeys are another hole to go down but that hole isn't as deep. I like wheated bourbons a lot, there aren't a ton of them out there, mostly Weller and Makers Mark. I'm a big fan of Makers, especially 46 Cask Strength (the 101 is pretty good too). Weller is... Weller, if you can get it get whatever you can but don't overspend, I personally am a huge fan of Old Weller Antique 107 but have a couple nice Weller Full Proofs, those ones took a lot of patience (and in one case a sizable charitable donation) but they can be really good, or really average depending on the barrel
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longknocker 07:35 AM 07-30-2021
Originally Posted by stearns:
Any "Bourbon" will be at least 51% corn, actual wheat whiskeys are another hole to go down but that hole isn't as deep. I like wheated bourbons a lot, there aren't a ton of them out there, mostly Weller and Makers Mark. I'm a big fan of Makers, especially 46 Cask Strength (the 101 is pretty good too). Weller is... Weller, if you can get it get whatever you can but don't overspend, I personally am a huge fan of Old Weller Antique 107 but have a couple nice Weller Full Proofs, those ones took a lot of patience (and in one case a sizable charitable donation) but they can be really good, or really average depending on the barrel
So Knob Creek, Four Roses, & Most Of Your Other Suggested Bourbons Are The Higher Corn Variety???
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stearns 07:55 AM 07-30-2021
They are all primarily corn, that being said there's a lot of room for playing around with that remaining 49%. Four Roses has two different mashbills, one 20% rye and one 35% rye (blends will usually have both), MGP is similar with 21% rye and 36% rye, Knob Creek is higher corn with only 13% rye.
This list isn't exhaustive but can give you a general idea of what a lot of the bigger ones are doing for their mash. Also keep in mind that the time in the barrel likely has more impact on the final product than the mash, but everything plays together to get you to what you taste when you pour it in a glass
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longknocker 09:15 AM 07-30-2021
icehog3 09:40 AM 07-30-2021
Originally Posted by longknocker:
Since I'm An Old Fart With No Mind Left, Explain The Numbers After The Whiskey???:-)
I think it's the price of a pour at the joint Chayse is talking about.
:-)
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longknocker 10:19 AM 07-30-2021
Originally Posted by icehog3:
I think it's the price of a pour at the joint Chayse is talking about. :-)
Got It!
:-):-)
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SNKBYT 04:06 PM 08-01-2021
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