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chippewastud79 02:36 PM 09-03-2011
Originally Posted by Starscream:
Not sure what this has to do with the argument? I never said he was the fastest player in the league. He is pretty darn fast, though.


To be honest, I am more than ok with him being on this team as long as Dusty realizes that Stubbs will be nothing more than a 6-8 hitter. We all know that he can't be a leadoff hitter b/c of his swing. Stubbs' numbers would be acceptable as a bottom of the order hitter on most MLB teams.
He doesn't have to speed to bunt for a base hit on the reg. He is quick, can't get on base very well, so it negates a lot of the upside to the way he plays baseball. He would be a fabulous pinch runner the way he strikes out, that would give him significantly more SB attempts. :-)
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chippewastud79 02:39 PM 09-03-2011
Originally Posted by waffle:
I like him 6-8 too, the biggest issue with him in Cincy was the fact that he was batting leadoff and couldnt get on base. Now that hes in the middle of the lineup, it works well. He's batting around what you could expect out a 6-8 batter and it gets him work while at the same time taking pressure off him of getting on base. Also, the speed in the end of the lineup is a nice jolt.
To be honest, I am more than ok with him being on this team as long as Dusty realizes that Stubbs will be nothing more than a 6-8 hitter. We all know that he can't be a leadoff hitter b/c of his swing. Stubbs' numbers would be acceptable as a bottom of the order hitter on most MLB teams.
He really is an 8 hitter, if he gets on base the pitcher bunts him over and he can score on deep singles. :-)
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chippewastud79 10:24 PM 09-03-2011
Reds must have lost. :-)
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icehog3 10:37 PM 09-03-2011
Originally Posted by chippewastud79:
Reds must have lost. :-)
No Dan sighting?

Let me help.

Tigers win! Tigers win! :-) :-) :-) :-)
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chippewastud79 10:48 PM 09-03-2011
Originally Posted by icehog3:
No Dan sighting?
That was my first clue. :-)

Tigers pulled off a nice one tonight. Maybe I should cheer for them more hardily. Its tough not getting FSN Detroit in Cincinnati, I wish I could see the Tigers more often. They have better announcers on FSN Detroit too. Cutting away during the rain delay to see the Reds losing was kind of ironic, as I was reminded why watching the Tigers was always more fun. :-)
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icehog3 10:56 PM 09-03-2011
Originally Posted by chippewastud79:
That was my first clue. :-)

Tigers pulled off a nice one tonight. Maybe I should cheer for them more hardily. Its tough not getting FSN Detroit in Cincinnati, I wish I could see the Tigers more often. They have better announcers on FSN Detroit too. Cutting away during the rain delay to see the Reds losing was kind of ironic, as I was reminded why watching the Tigers was always more fun. :-)
I think they put the nail in the Wite Sox' coffin tonight, and I don't think the Indians have the jiuce.

Unfortunately, I don't think the Tigers can get out of the AL unless their starting pitchers can all give them 7 innings a game....not just Verlander and Fister.
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chippewastud79 11:00 PM 09-03-2011
Originally Posted by icehog3:
I think they put the nail in the Wite Sox' coffin tonight, and I don't think the Indians have the jiuce.

Unfortunately, I don't think the Tigers can get out of the AL unless their starting pitchers can all give them 7 innings a game....not just Verlander and Fister.
I concur. Sadly, it appears as if they are in line to be the Reds of last year in the AL this year. They just can't have Verlander start 3 games in a 5 game series. :-)
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Starscream 11:36 AM 09-04-2011
Originally Posted by chippewastud79:
He doesn't have to speed to bunt for a base hit on the reg. He is quick, can't get on base very well, so it negates a lot of the upside to the way he plays baseball. He would be a fabulous pinch runner the way he strikes out, that would give him significantly more SB attempts. :-)
If they did that, we wouldn't need Arroyo anymore.:-)
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Starscream 06:58 PM 09-05-2011
30 one run losses this season.
Only team that is beating us in that category is KC with 31.
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chippewastud79 07:27 PM 09-05-2011
Originally Posted by Starscream:
30 one run losses this season.
Only team that is beating us in that category is KC with 31.
The opposite of last season when they pulled off a bunch of miracle wins in the last AB's. :-)

Win their first series of the season against the Cardinals and then follow it up by losing to the Cubs. :-)

They just don't like supporting Willis I think :-)
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chippewastud79 07:35 PM 09-05-2011
How do you feel about Stubbs in the 2 spot? He is batting .250 and slugging .300, how do you put him in the 2 spot? He is only 16 K's from 200 and if Phillips isn't on base, he is absolutely worthess in the 2 spot. Again leaving Votto batting with the bases empty and 2 outs. Not a fan of putting Stubbs anywhere higher than 7. :-)


Also of note: Willis has a average that is .150 higher than Stubbs and got the same number of hits and none of the strikeouts. :-)
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Starscream 08:46 PM 09-05-2011
Originally Posted by chippewastud79:
They just don't like supporting Willis I think :-)
I'm starting to think that's the case.
Originally Posted by chippewastud79:
How do you feel about Stubbs in the 2 spot? He is batting .250 and slugging .300, how do you put him in the 2 spot? He is only 16 K's from 200 and if Phillips isn't on base, he is absolutely worthess in the 2 spot. Again leaving Votto batting with the bases empty and 2 outs. Not a fan of putting Stubbs anywhere higher than 7. :-)


Also of note: Willis has a average that is .150 higher than Stubbs and got the same number of hits and none of the strikeouts. :-)
Only place that Stubbs should be at in this lineup is in the 6-8 spot, and in the nine spot when Leake and Willis are hitting. The problem is, I don't know who I would put in the two hole. Dusty likes to put his SSs out there, but Janish is what, 0-28 of late?
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elderboy02 10:00 PM 09-06-2011
Reds win! Reds win! :-):-):-):-):-)
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icehog3 10:52 PM 09-06-2011
Originally Posted by elderboy02:
Reds win! Reds win! :-):-):-):-)
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waffle 06:04 AM 09-07-2011
Originally Posted by icehog3:
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i LOVE it!!!!! YEAH TOM! And I believe what Dan meant to say is "Joey Votto saves the day yet again... what are the Reds going to do when he's outta here????"
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elderboy02 07:24 AM 09-07-2011
EDIT: Nevermind.
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icehog3 08:24 AM 09-07-2011
Originally Posted by elderboy02:
EDIT: Nevermind.
EDIT: :-) :-)
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waffle 08:26 AM 09-07-2011
Originally Posted by icehog3:
EDIT: :-) :-)
EDIT: Tom's poor Cubbies.... just be happy its not a 5 team division because at least they're not in last place :-)
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icehog3 08:30 AM 09-07-2011
Originally Posted by waffle:
EDIT: Tom's poor Cubbies.... just be happy its not a 5 team division because at least they're not in last place :-)
But my Tigers are in 1st! :-) :-)


P.S.....Dan, you know we love you. :-)
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waffle 08:34 AM 09-07-2011
Originally Posted by icehog3:
But my Tigers are in 1st! :-) :-)


P.S.....Dan, you know we love you. :-)


Beats my Reds.... and yes Dan, we love you, mine wasn't a shot at you, it was a shot at blowing the lead in the bottom of the 9th... and having to hop on the back of possibly the best player in the NL .... AGAIN.... I'm really going to miss him in two years when he moves back to Toronto to be the white Joe Carter, smiling rounding the bases in the World Series :-)

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