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HK3- 06:16 AM 07-13-2011
Originally Posted by Cigarcop:
The event I was in (1000 Yrds shoot) this past weekend went well except for Sat when the winds were 20 mph+ and switching at some points making it very difficult to read the conditions. On Sunday the winds weren't that bad and I won the match that day shooting a 197 out of 200 with only 3 shots in the 9 ring....11 shots were in the X ring:-)
The overall results won't be posted till next week.
Sounds like you did really well. Congrats! :-)
0002S 06:25 AM 07-13-2011
Originally Posted by Cigarcop:
The event I was in (1000 Yrds shoot) this past weekend went well except for Sat when the winds were 20 mph+ and switching at some points making it very difficult to read the conditions. On Sunday the winds weren't that bad and I won the match that day shooting a 197 out of 200 with only 3 shots in the 9 ring....11 shots were in the X ring:-)
The overall results won't be posted till next week.

congrats on the win.

My Fri shooting was great at the 175 loads were on target. Sat was HOT and the mirage and wind made for an interesting day. I was shooting 168s and and the conditions moved them all around.

We did get the bright idea to take a Nagant and shoot it with 178s out to 600 yds. Surprisingly we were able to keep it in the center of a tractor tire every shot once we got the hold under down.

Then at a 1000 yds we were able to get a 6'x6' grouping...:-)

The sights suck, the trigger sucked and my shoulder hurt like hell after 20 rounds.
hscmit 07:17 AM 07-13-2011
sounds like a fun day, and doing more than plinking is always fun
Steve 02:29 PM 07-18-2011
Anyone see anything wrong with this picture???

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Scothew 02:37 PM 07-18-2011
Um i am not the most profecient person in firearms, but that clip is a bit backwards in its loading correct?
Bill86 02:49 PM 07-18-2011
Haha the bullets were put in backwords :-)
gpugliese 03:07 PM 07-18-2011
Ah the old HK backwards gag. Seems like the photographer (or assistant) wasn't well versed on firearms. :-)
Steve 03:42 PM 07-18-2011
:-):-) :-)
SNKBYT 05:41 PM 07-18-2011
Originally Posted by gpugliese:
Ah the old HK backwards gag. Seems like the photographer (or assistant) wasn't well versed on firearms. :-)
what a dumb azz
hotreds 08:22 AM 07-19-2011
National Concealed Carry Bill Plans Revealed
Neil W. McCabe, Editor

Dear Guns & Patriots readers,

The debt ceiling talks continue to dominate Washington, but that does not mean the battle to protect gun rights has moved offstage.

One very positive development is the anticipated re-introduction by Sen. John R. Thune, R-Utah, of his national concealed carry bill. Thune's 2009 bill received 58 votes in the Senate and with the increase in pro-gun rights Senators in this session, many have wondered why he has waited so long. I asked the Senator that question, along with questions about the BATFE's Project Gun Runner and other issues, sure to interest the readers of Guns & Patriots in an exclusive July 14 interview. My article based on the interview is part of this week's offering and we have audio from the interview in this week's podcast.

In this week's podcast, my co-host Brian H. Darling, who is a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation, explains what is happening at Capitol Hill with the debt ceiling talks and the different versions of the Balanced Budget Amendment. Darling writes the "Legislative Lowdown" column for Human Events every week, and you can read his last column here. Also in the podcast, you will here my conversation with historian Robert J. Laplander, the author of "Finding the Lost Battalion," who produces our Medal of Honor Roll Call column every week. You can subscribe for the podcast at iTunes here.

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Eric Andringa writes about an importance of how we pass on a respect and reverence for firearms to our children. Andringa describes the first time he showed his stepson a 9mm and let him hold it. It is an article that should resonate with us all.

Richard L. Johnson weighs in with a review of the BLACKHAWK! recoil reducing stocks. Johnson is a career law enforcement professional and trainer. Whenever I read his product reviews, I feel like he is writing from both his own perspective and from the prospective of someone he would have to be training—like me.

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We are also joined by a new friend and contributor David Adams, the president of the Washington Chapter of the Society of the Third Infantry Division. Adams, who rose to the rank of Captain during his service in the Vietnam War and the Cold War, writes about our WWII landings on the south of France, Operation Dragoon. This operation is often called the Forgotten D-Day, and was a major part of the success of the Normandy invasion because it opened up a second front. There will be ceremonies Aug. 4-7 commemorating Operation Dragoon in Washington, D.C.

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WyGuy 07:22 PM 07-20-2011
My new Sig came in today, love the way the grip feels. Hopefully it cools down this weekend so I can spend some time at the range!

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Ratters 08:34 PM 07-20-2011
Originally Posted by Cigarcop:
Hal, Lapua is about as good as you can get, but depending on what your needs are Black Hills or Federal Gold Match may work just fine. If you want to push your loads hard get the Lapua!
:-)

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HK3- 07:20 AM 07-21-2011
^^ No doubt! Funny but true........

Picked up a few boxes of unprimed Hornady Match brass to reload. Managed to load two different batches of twenty five rounds so far. Still waiting for my rifle to be done and it's driving me crazy that I still have not gotten to shoot it yet. :-)

In the end I took my reload "kit" back and bought the components separate. Yeah, it cost a lot more in the end but I got some upgraded things that the kit doesn't offer. The electric powder measuring system is wicked cool.
baddevildog82 07:40 AM 07-21-2011
Originally Posted by steve:
Anyone see anything wrong with this picture???]
LMAO! I can't believe that error was allowed to be printed.
hotreds 06:45 PM 07-26-2011
Washington’s Gun Dean in a July 25 interview said the lesson to be learned from the July 22 massacre in Norway is that strict gun control leaves unarmed citizens helpless before a mad gunman.

"The recent mass murder in Oslo, Norway demonstrates that decent citizens need to be able to acquire and use firearms for the defense of their lives and the lives of their loved ones,” said John M. Snyder, the senior gun rights advocate in the nation’s capital and a founding member of The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

Snyder, who operates the website www.GunRightsPolicies.org , said, "The message is clear. Gun laws do not stop mass murder. Citizens armed with guns do. Guns save lives.”

"When Anders Brevik allegedly murdered nearly 100 civilians, he used an automatic firearm, according to a police reports, even though the civilian acquisition and possession of such arms are prohibited in Norway, which generally has restrictive firearms laws," Snyder said.

After the reports to police of the killing rampage, it took an hour and a half for law enforcement officials to arrive at the scene. Brevik apparently continued the killing spree until he ran out of ammunition, he said.

"What all this tells us is that the strict Norwegian gun control laws did not prevent the mass murder," Snyder said. "They did make it virtually impossible for a prospective armed Norwegian legally to have the gun which he or she could have used to take down the violent criminal perpetrator anytime during the 90-minute horror."

Other incidents indicate the same truth about citizens and guns.

A couple of years ago, on November 11, 2009, Maj. Nidal Malik Hassan allegedly killed 13 people at Fort Hood, Texas and wounded many others before being stopped heroically by local police, he said.

Even though this occurred at a military base, service men and women were prevented from having the guns they could have used to stop Hassan because of a Clinton-era policy preventing American military personnel from being armed at bases in the United States, he said.

On April 16, 2007, Seung-Hui Cho murdered 32 people and then himself at Virginia Polytechnic Institute. Even though the Commonwealth of Virginia has a law allowing individuals with a state-issued permit to carry a concealed firearm, VA Tech policy prohibits professors and students from carrying guns on campus even if they have such a permit. The policy did not stop Cho, but it did prevent anyone from being able legally to stop Cho.

Just last fall, the Al-Qaeda linked Internet magazine Inspire encouraged lone wolf militant Islamist terrorists to go into restaurants in downtown Washington, D.C. during the lunch hour, and fire away at diners in the hopes of killing a number of people, including federal employees. Washington, D.C. prohibits even law-abiding citizens from carrying firearms. The powers-that-be there render law-abiding citizens defenseless in the face of a potential mass-murdering terrorist.

Contrast these incidents with the January 16, 2002 incident at the Appalachian Law School in Grundy, Virginia when two students with guns stopped what could have been a mass murder when they tackled a culprit after he had killed three people.

Consider, too, the October 1, 1997 incident in Pearl, Mississippi, when an assistant principal at a high school went to his car, got his gun and shot the murderer of two students.

Recall the April 24, 1998 time in Edinboro, Pennsylvania when a bystander pointed a shotgun at the murderer of a teacher when he stopped to reload.

"As a matter of fact, citizens with guns stop crime two and a half million times a year, according to Professor Gary Kleck, Ph.D. of the School of Criminology and Criminal Justice at Florida State University in Tallahassee."

"Fortunately, federal legislators are beginning to realize that guns can be used to stop crime. Over 240 Congressmen have cosponsored H.R. 822, the proposed National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2011 by Rep. Cliff Stearns, R-Fla., he said. "H.R. 822 would allow people with permits to carry concealed firearms issued by a state to carry in other states. Sen. John Thune, R-S.D., has committed to introduce a national reciprocity bill in the near future, too.

"The word is getting around. Gun laws do not stop crime. Citizens with guns do. Guns save lives. Support national right to carry reciprocity,” the Gun Dean said.
Tyler 10:23 PM 07-26-2011
This makes me want to go get a handgun. My father owns about 3 or 4 so I might just talk him into taking them to the range with me or something. :-)
Cigarcop 04:41 PM 07-30-2011
Originally Posted by Ratters:
:-)

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Not near $5 bucks if you reload,....... maybe $1.35:-)

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HK3- 07:41 AM 08-02-2011
^^^ Now that's badazz!
nosdog2 07:40 PM 08-02-2011
Cigarcop, amazing setup, both the reloading room and the rifle.
thechrisdotcom 08:08 PM 08-02-2011
I won this golf bag at a cigar event...I don't golf. So I put it to good use for something else.

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