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Ace$nyper 12:56 PM 01-14-2009
Well I went to buy another gun today, figured they didn't have it and the place has had 4-5 just laying around all the time.

I was going to grab a Nagant revolver, mostly due to dirt cheapness and the gas seal and the idea of firing a 223 out of one.

Just seems like a lot of fun firepower for 150 range. So I'll be on a hunt for one.
JE3146 01:22 PM 01-14-2009
Originally Posted by Ace$nyper:
Well I went to buy another gun today, figured they didn't have it and the place has had 4-5 just laying around all the time.

I was going to grab a Nagant revolver, mostly due to dirt cheapness and the gas seal and the idea of firing a 223 out of one.

Just seems like a lot of fun firepower for 150 range. So I'll be on a hunt for one.
Firing a .223 out of a Nagant Revolver!???

That's a 30 cal bore.

Where did you hear about this?
Ace$nyper 06:07 PM 01-14-2009
Read in a Imperial Russian arms book, found a few spots on line.

Says it needs a hand load of sorts, I cant drop in a normal 223 though, but I'm kind giddy to try it.

From the wiki (appears to be copied out of the book I have)
Other cartridges—.32 S&W, .32 S&W Long, .32 H&R Magnum, and custom handloads using .32-20 Winchester, .30 Carbine or .223 Remington cases—will also chamber and fire in the revolver but will not achieve the gas seal.

edit: http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?t=5415

Just use the brass, the book seems to kind leave that out...
floydpink 06:46 PM 01-14-2009
Any of you guys own a Glock G19? If I missed the pic, I appologize.

I am seriously considering one of these.
JE3146 06:52 PM 01-14-2009
Originally Posted by floydpink:
Any of you guys own a Glock G19? If I missed the pic, I appologize.

I am seriously considering one of these.
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Do yourself a favor. Get it.

Absolutely amazing sidearm.
elderboy02 07:09 PM 01-14-2009
Originally Posted by floydpink:
Any of you guys own a Glock G19? If I missed the pic, I appologize.

I am seriously considering one of these.
I would get a Glock 23 (.40). It is the same size frame as the G19. You can buy a conversion barrel for it to shoot 9mm. Basically, you get 2 guns in one :-)
Fishbeadtwo 07:28 PM 01-14-2009
Just tried the Glock 23 a few days ago.....Do yourself a favor and try the Sig 226.........:-)
floydpink 08:15 PM 01-14-2009
Take it easy guys! Tryin to keep it around 500 bucks please. Economy and all.

The Sig 226 is only a couple hundred more and it IS my life we're talking about..... hmmmmm

Seriously, I keep hearing the 19 is an all star.
JE3146 08:39 PM 01-14-2009
Originally Posted by floydpink:
Take it easy guys! Tryin to keep it around 500 bucks please. Economy and all.

The Sig 226 is only a couple hundred more and it IS my life we're talking about..... hmmmmm

Seriously, I keep hearing the 19 is an all star.
:-) :-):-)
ChicagoWhiteSox 09:24 PM 01-14-2009
I need a new shotgun for duck and goose hunting. I dont need a semi and was looking a the browning bps stalker mossy oak duck blind.
Does anyone own or have ever shot a bps and could give me a little review?
Thrak 06:05 AM 01-15-2009
Originally Posted by floydpink:
Take it easy guys! Tryin to keep it around 500 bucks please. Economy and all.

The Sig 226 is only a couple hundred more and it IS my life we're talking about..... hmmmmm

Seriously, I keep hearing the 19 is an all star.

Go rent some to try before you buy. The glock gets alot of accolades, but the grip angle for me just doesnt work AT ALL. Its one of the most uncomfortable guns I've shot, especially in a .40.

You can find used or CPO 226's in your price range, but dont rule out looking at a P229, they're amazing.
floydpink 08:52 AM 01-15-2009
Yeah, the Sigs are definitely the top of the top. If the SEALS carry them, they can't suck.

Ironically, last night at work, everywhere I looked there were Ruger and Team Glock shirts. Turns out there is a gun manufacturer convention in Orlando this week, but not open to the public.

I know I'm in a minority, but I feel that the Kel Tec P11 is the ultimate deep conceal weapon and with JHP +p rounds in it, is one heck of a good sidearm.

I really am looking for a backup that is both concealable, dependable, and extremely well built. The Glock 19 is in the front of the pack right now, although I need to try some of the others mentioned here.
j-easy 02:21 PM 01-15-2009
Originally Posted by floydpink:
Yeah, the Sigs are definitely the top of the top. If the SEALS carry them, they can't suck.

Ironically, last night at work, everywhere I looked there were Ruger and Team Glock shirts. Turns out there is a gun manufacturer convention in Orlando this week, but not open to the public.

I know I'm in a minority, but I feel that the Kel Tec P11 is the ultimate deep conceal weapon and with JHP +p rounds in it, is one heck of a good sidearm.

I really am looking for a backup that is both concealable, dependable, and extremely well built. The Glock 19 is in the front of the pack right now, although I need to try some of the others mentioned here.
that would be the shot show

http://www.shotshow.org/App/homepage...appname=100300

it opened today
gpugliese 08:38 AM 01-18-2009
I just started the process to get a LTC-A in Boston (unrestricted, concealed). Probably will end up with the A, non concealed, but that's fine. It comes down to the Police Chief's discretion, and 9 times out of 10 they do not allow concealed carry.

There's also quite a few hoops I have to jump through above and beyond the already draconian Massachusetts licensing process, but it will be worth it in the end.
dunng 08:48 AM 01-18-2009
Originally Posted by gpugliese:
I just started the process to get a LTC-A in Boston (unrestricted, concealed). Probably will end up with the A, non concealed, but that's fine. It comes down to the Police Chief's discretion, and 9 times out of 10 they do not allow concealed carry.

There's also quite a few hoops I have to jump through above and beyond the already draconian Massachusetts licensing process, but it will be worth it in the end.
I got my LTC-A from my local town (that is all they give out to simplify things :-) ). :-)
gpugliese 09:51 AM 01-18-2009
Originally Posted by dunng:
I got my LTC-A from my local town (that is all they give out to simplify things :-) ). :-)
Yea, I wish I lived just outside of Boston city limits (ie Cambridge, Arlington) as it would make it much easier. My safety class instructor lives in Arlington, and he said that the Police Chief gives everyone with good references LTC A unrestricted.
floydpink 10:58 AM 01-18-2009
I forgot how complicated it is up North.

You can go to a gun show here and take the class for free and send it in and have a concealed weapon permit in 3 months max.

The class is nothing more than filling out paperwork, getting fingerprinted and hitting a taget twice from 25 feet.
Mark C 11:06 AM 01-18-2009
Originally Posted by floydpink:
I forgot how complicated it is up North.

You can go to a gun show here and take the class for free and send it in and have a concealed weapon permit in 3 months max.

The class is nothing more than filling out paperwork, getting fingerprinted and hitting a taget twice from 25 feet.
It's the worst in MD, unless you're driving an armored car for a living or something similar, no permit. But I CAN apply for an out-of-state Florida permit that's good in more than half the country. Go figure.
gettysburgfreak 11:10 AM 01-18-2009
do any of you guys have any civil war era weapons? At some point I would like to buy a musket or carbine which are awesome guns.
barbourjay 11:39 AM 01-18-2009
Originally Posted by floydpink:
I forgot how complicated it is up North.

You can go to a gun show here and take the class for free and send it in and have a concealed weapon permit in 3 months max.

The class is nothing more than filling out paperwork, getting fingerprinted and hitting a taget twice from 25 feet.
it's awesome isn't it? it was so easy to get one i had a FL permit years before i moved down here. it took about a month to get it transferred to a residents permit.

BTW, if you look hard enough finding a new glock could be in the 400 range. not all the best deals are at the gun shows. i could put you in touch with someone who might run you a special if need be.
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