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NCRadioMan 11:19 AM 05-20-2011
Originally Posted by thecatch83:
Got the email, joined, signed, can't wait to smoke kick ass LE cigars that disgruntled naysayers don't give two squirts about.
Fixed it for ya. :-)
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neoflex 11:23 AM 05-20-2011
Originally Posted by Superbad:
Now that I see what is on offer. I am passing. No mention of cigars with membership.
But than you won't get the playing cards, non-torch lighter and your commemorative coin. Being it's a cigar club they could have at least offered a torch rather than a soft flame lighter. I wish I knew what all was included in the smokers kit box. Are there any smokes smokes in it? Still no mention of cigars so I am passing too. Sorry but all the other marketing things included added up to maybe $30-$0 tops so the way I see it, there is very little return for my investment. Other than the T and hat the rest would be thrown in a box in the corner of my office.
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Aero95 11:33 AM 05-20-2011
Originally Posted by neoflex:
But than you won't get the playing cards, non-torch lighter and your commemorative coin. Being it's a cigar club they could have at least offered a torch rather than a soft flame lighter. I wish I knew what all was included in the smokers kit box. Are there any smokes smokes in it? Still no mention of cigars so I am passing too. Sorry but all the other marketing things included added up to maybe $30-$0 tops so the way I see it, there is very little return for my investment. Other than the T and hat the rest would be thrown in a box in the corner of my office.
A few different sites are saying 15 cigars are included in the membership.

http://www.stogiereview.com/2010/11/...inners-saints/
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neoflex 11:37 AM 05-20-2011
I've seen that too but if the site where I am giving my credit card info to doesn't than it's just hearsay and their not obligated to give me any cigars if it's not in black and white. I think they should mention on the page if smokes are included or not otherwise the price of entrance is not worth it. I love Pete's cigars but I think I am just about done feeding into the hype machine.
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thecatch83 11:38 AM 05-20-2011
Originally Posted by NCRadioMan:
Fixed it for ya. :-)
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Brutus2600 11:40 AM 05-20-2011
Originally Posted by neoflex:
But than you won't get the playing cards, non-torch lighter and your commemorative coin. Being it's a cigar club they could have at least offered a torch rather than a soft flame lighter. I wish I knew what all was included in the smokers kit box. Are there any smokes smokes in it? Still no mention of cigars so I am passing too. Sorry but all the other marketing things included added up to maybe $30-$0 tops so the way I see it, there is very little return for my investment. Other than the T and hat the rest would be thrown in a box in the corner of my office.
I agree...the stuff is sorta cool, but it's what I would expect as free swag with a special box purchase. So...I will treat this as a box purchase and not buy it until I know what cigars are included. I'm not tired of the hype (even though I understand if you are), but I'm also not going to go blindly into this without knowing if I think those smokes are worth my money (which could be spent on other cigars if I don't think they are, lol).
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marge796 11:41 AM 05-20-2011
I just joined up, I'll see what Pete has up his sleeve this time. I haven't been disappointed thus far.


:-)


Chris.....
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NCRadioMan 11:43 AM 05-20-2011
Originally Posted by neoflex:
I've seen that too but if the site where I am giving my credit card info to doesn't than it's just hearsay and their not obligated to give me any cigars if it's not in black and white. I think they should mention on the page if smokes are included or not otherwise the price of entrance is not worth it. I love Pete's cigars but I think I am just about done feeding into the hype machine.
But John, they are kick ass LE cigars that anybody and everybody that joins gets to smoke.

Oh wait, that's not so LE is it? :-)
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xlc12rf 11:52 AM 05-20-2011
I love his cigars, and he may be great at marketing, but I'm not paying for a 'lifestyle'. And I'm a tatwhore, too.
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neoflex 11:54 AM 05-20-2011
I dropped a post on Petes Facebook page asking what the deal was with smokes and the club. If they put it in plain and simple type on the page it would clear up all the confusion. Part of me thinks that it may be their way of getting around giving people any specific smokes so if they run out, they can swap out one for another maybe not so "Special"stick so they can add as many members that are willing to pay even if it exceeds the so called sticks alloted for this exclusive club. Or maybe there are no smokes included. Your guess is as good as mine. I guess if you really want to join you just got to trust the guy. Me, I'm not so trusting especially when I don't know the man personally and I'm dropping hard earned money on the table. The other crap looks like lower end stuff of what he hands out at events already. So where's the exclusivity of it? I will wait to hear from Pete's mouth directly although by his Facebook page it looks like he may be out of town and off the grid for a bit.
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thecatch83 11:58 AM 05-20-2011
Originally Posted by Brooks W:
I cringe every time someone decides to pass judgement on Pete, when all he is doing is what people ASK him to do, release (mostly great) cigars. Someone on another board was *****ing because Pete said he was going to give some of the money to charity...REALLY? I understand if you don't want to support Pete if he is giving money to a Charity you don't like, but do you really have to deride him for that?

I was there when the idea of the "Fan Club" was discussed, some of the people I was with actually kinda talked Pete into it (or at least gave him some reasons why he should do it)...It made perfect sense at the time, a membership with exclusive stuff that anyone who WANTS to can join, and those that don't can choose NOT to join.

Would people prefer he not release ANY new stuff? Or only on a specific schedule? One new cigar every 6 months? Or is that still "too many"?

PETE is not the one causing the division, it is the "BOTL" who ***** and moan about EVERY NEW RELEASE, as if it has not been said Ad nauseam.

Pete is in the business to A. Release cigars and B. Make money releasing cigars. If you have a problem with either, don't BUY the cigars (or related products he is selling).

Is it really that hard to understand?
bump
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Bunker 12:24 PM 05-20-2011
Originally Posted by neoflex:
I dropped a post on Petes Facebook page asking what the deal was with smokes and the club. If they put it in plain and simple type on the page it would clear up all the confusion. Part of me thinks that it may be their way of getting around giving people any specific smokes so if they run out, they can swap out one for another maybe not so "Special"stick so they can add as many members that are willing to pay even if it exceeds the so called sticks alloted for this exclusive club. Or maybe there are no smokes included. Your guess is as good as mine. I guess if you really want to join you just got to trust the guy. Me, I'm not so trusting especially when I don't know the man personally and I'm dropping hard earned money on the table. The other crap looks like lower end stuff of what he hands out at events already. So where's the exclusivity of it? I will wait to hear from Pete's mouth directly although by his Facebook page it looks like he may be out of town and off the grid for a bit.
I'm with you, give me a list of smokes and I am in. I could give a **** about any swag or access to swag.

If not I'll just wait and see what other's get and out my $150 towards my next box of Tat Brown :-)
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marge796 12:30 PM 05-20-2011
Originally Posted by Bunker:
I'm with you, give me a list of smokes and I am in. I could give a **** about any swag or access to swag.

If not I'll just wait and see what other's get and out my $150 towards my next box of Tat Brown :-)
That's the genius behind Pete, he's not going to tell you anymore than he already has. But, for those of us who are big fans of his cigars know he won't let anyone down, IMO.


You've got to pay to play.


Chris.....
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elderboy02 12:54 PM 05-20-2011
I am in :-)
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pnoon 01:08 PM 05-20-2011
Some folks think this "club" is great. Others think it's BS. There are even some on the fence.

One thing is certain. No matter what your position, there will be tolerance for opposing points of view. For those that can't read between the lines, be civil or move on.
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Trent0341 01:14 PM 05-20-2011
That SS smoke kit looks suspiciously like a box of cigars... I know I've knocked the large numbers of LE releases in the past but I find it tempting (and hard to believe that PJ would charge $150 for just some swag).
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mariogolbee 01:20 PM 05-20-2011
Originally Posted by Trent0341:
That SS smoke kit looks suspiciously like a box of cigars...
:-) Looks a lot like the Face 10 count box. The Face is a VERY BIG cigar. Imagine what they can put in one of those "Smoke kits." I would join, but i have to check the finances first. As far as the "lifestyle" goes, I'm not in it for that.
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Brooks W 01:22 PM 05-20-2011
Originally Posted by Trent0341:
That SS smoke kit looks suspiciously like a box of cigars... I know I've knocked the large numbers of LE releases in the past but I find it tempting (and hard to believe that PJ would charge $150 for just some swag).
It is a cigar box, it is actually the same box the "Outlaw" Tats came in...

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~brooks
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mcmoyer 01:28 PM 05-20-2011
Originally Posted by elderboy02:
I am in :-)
Yup....:-)
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jovenhut 03:47 PM 05-20-2011
Originally Posted by Brooks W:
It is a cigar box, it is actually the same box the "Outlaw" Tats came in...

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~brooks
:-)
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