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klipsch 10:03 PM 10-24-2009
Originally Posted by Pilon:
Just an FYI because I know alot of folks are getting irritated with the "unlucky 13" retailers. The Regency Cigar Emporium in RI does have a list and I am confirmed on the list. I asked why people who were calling in had to order a box of other Tat's before being able to purchase a box of Dracs or Boris. He is a businessman and business has been bad for a lot of folks. You can't blame him for trying to increase sales on an already hyped product. Existing customers, customers that have purchased from him before, are not required to buy a box of something else before buying the box of Dracs or Boris.
I'm calling in a favor, and I'm prepared to show up with some Tat's that the Regency has only heard about, in an effort to bribe my way onto the Reserve List...lol.
I do know of several people that already have Drac's and Boris' sitting comfortably in their humi's...the bastards...lol.
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Pilon 10:06 PM 10-24-2009
Walter....go to bed. lol
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Ahbroody 10:21 PM 10-24-2009
Originally Posted by tobii3:
You live in San Jose and are trying to BRAG???

:-):-):-)

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Oh yeah....we're jealous.... :-)
Yup consistently one of the safest big cities in the country, great weather, beautiful women, close to the beach. Sorry I guess you dont like those things my mistake.

As to the Dracs and Boris if you are in the bay area Mission says they are in on Tuesday Should be on the counter on Tuesday night. As to those not in the area they are going to be pricey because of taxes and she likely wont be doing any phone sales for days as she wants to sell them locally.
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tobii3 08:53 AM 10-25-2009
Originally Posted by Ahbroody:
...they are going to be pricey because of taxes ...
NOW I remember why I left Monterey County.

And Broody, don't try selling the fairy tale, y'all got the same amount of SeaDonkeys as the rest of the US.

:-)
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Ahbroody 09:04 AM 10-25-2009
Originally Posted by tobii3:
SeaDonkeys
:-) :-)

Yeah taxes are harsh. Hey someone has to pay for all the free shiet out here.
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Guitarman-S.T- 05:13 PM 10-25-2009
Just got a message from my hook up while I was at work ( There Here! First come First serve)

Needless to say they sold out. I was the only one that wanted to be an a continues list from last years purchase... Talked with them months ago, and they just.. Do that?!

Wow, SOOO done with my feelings of having a box of the Monster series per year :-)
"There all yours"
Muahahahahaha ( evil laugh) Muahahahaha!!
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wavescrashing 10:18 PM 10-25-2009
The Dracs weren't too hard to get, but the Boris seems like a unicorn. Maybe you have to believe in vampires to get one.
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Guitarman-S.T- 11:13 PM 10-25-2009
no boris for me wanted the dracs, But now want nothin to do with the Tat' craze
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colimo 01:33 AM 10-26-2009
Originally Posted by wavescrashing:
The Dracs weren't too hard to get, but the Boris seems like a unicorn. Maybe you have to believe in vampires to get one.

where, how did you get em?
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wavescrashing 01:58 AM 10-26-2009
Well, They released the retailer lists the day after Columbus Day, so I was returning off of a 3 day holiday and didn't have to be at work till noon. Once the list got released at 10 AM my time, I called a few shops, all secondary retailers, and they had spots open. I got mine from a shop in Sacramento.
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s15driftking 10:18 AM 10-26-2009
Originally Posted by Guitarman-S.T-:
no boris for me wanted the dracs, But now want nothin to do with the Tat' craze
QFT
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coastietech 10:26 AM 10-26-2009
I don't understand what the issue is...


I've called about 15 shops out of the 200+ additional shops on the list of B&M getting them and they are all getting 3-4 boxes and haven't even had anyone ask for them yet.

They aren't that hard to find. I'm a damn newbie and I have a box reserved to pick up this week. A little leg work and they can be found and purchased.
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Jfire 10:38 AM 10-26-2009
Originally Posted by coastietech:
I don't understand what the issue is...


I've called about 15 shops out of the 200+ additional shops on the list of B&M getting them and they are all getting 3-4 boxes and haven't even had anyone ask for them yet.

They aren't that hard to find. I'm a damn newbie and I have a box reserved to pick up this week. A little leg work and they can be found and purchased.
Well so far I called for 3 hrs on the 13th. Got on several list and was told adios. No biggie it happens. Then called the secondary shops in IL that are getting them. " I am getting them, no kidding thanks for the heads up. "Maybe I can sell you some after the 1st of Nov if there are any left."
Then did the 2 hr scavenger hunt on e retailer saturday. In the cart 3x. So saying a "little leg work and they can be found" All I know is IL has alot of Tat whores and there hard to find to say the least. Having said this i dont even mention the 2 names anymore. Just mo.
(its ok though cause evertime I look into the vinos I get to look at a box of T110s, Sw Maddies, Noella Res, Noella Regios Res, Cab OR, and a bunch of sticks that are rarer then those currently being sold):-)
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GreekGodX 10:43 AM 10-26-2009
Originally Posted by coastietech:
I don't understand what the issue is...


I've called about 15 shops out of the 200+ additional shops on the list of B&M getting them and they are all getting 3-4 boxes and haven't even had anyone ask for them yet.

They aren't that hard to find. I'm a damn newbie and I have a box reserved to pick up this week. A little leg work and they can be found and purchased.
:-) I believe I already said this too. We are creating a lot of the hype around these cigars by calling the stores and asking about them. Just because a limited amount of people, spread around the country, on a cigar forum know about them doesn't mean the rest of the nation does. Once they hit local shelves I think it will be easy to get them :-)

The key thing is you might have to pay a premium price and you need to be patient :-)
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s15driftking 10:44 AM 10-26-2009
Originally Posted by coastietech:
A little leg work and they can be found and purchased.
Bro, this is totally after-the-fact....

and if you still persist... then answer me three questions...

1. Do you agree with Pete's allowance of shop owners/workers to win the ducati because they opened all the boxes prior?

2. Do you agree with Pete's allowance of the Local B&M's allowance to sell them online and ruin, RUIN the excitement of the "locallized" luckiness of having a nearby B&M that got the first initial shipment?

3. Do you agree with Pete's allowance/tolerance for B&M's charging more than the afforementioned 13.00 per-stick pricetag that was publicly announced before theyshipped?


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I don't own Tatuaje, so i cannot control these things, I don't own one of the shops that sells them so I cannot control those things as well.

But what I can control is my continuation of purchasing a product that lacks integrity and class.... And I don't associate with those people...



......unless I'm in Vegas
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Slavac 10:53 AM 10-26-2009
I'm confused by one thing that hopefully someone with a more advanced business degree than my measly BA can answer: why such a fuss about stores charging X over MSRP for a product?

I've worked two retail jobs and have never heard of a manufacturer berating a retailer for selling their product OVER MSRP.
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s15driftking 10:57 AM 10-26-2009
Originally Posted by Slavac:
I'm confused by one thing that hopefully someone with a more advanced business degree than my measly BA can answer: why such a fuss about stores charging X over MSRP for a product?

I've worked two retail jobs and have never heard of a manufacturer berating a retailer for selling their product OVER MSRP.
In a Niche-like special event situation (this being halloween) like a "monster series" it looks bad if your 13.00 dollar cigar sells for more than 13.00 dollars considering the number 13 is used repeatedly in trends of the event.... Kinda ruins it you know?
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Slavac 11:07 AM 10-26-2009
Originally Posted by s15driftking:
In a Niche-like special event situation (this being halloween) like a "monster series" it looks bad if your 13.00 dollar cigar sells for more than 13.00 dollars considering the number 13 is used repeatedly in trends of the event.... Kinda ruins it you know?
I get the cuteness of releasing 13xxx boxes to 13 stores while he had 13 pennies in his left pocket while wearing only one size 13 shoe while walking down 31st street (he had dyslexia :-)) but I don't think it's a matter of contention.

Capitalism being what it is, stores are as free to raise their prices however far they want as you are similarly free to shop at other venues. All this talk of price gouging is just absurd.
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Dukeuni 11:16 AM 10-26-2009
My take on the pricing.

I have a read a lot of things about Pete Johnson. He seems to be a great guy, and someone who believes in B&M's. He seems pretty strict concerning MSRP, and I believe The Party Source got in trouble one time for posting prices far lower then MSRP for some of his sticks (It could have been about another manufacturer).

My take: If you are going to be upset at retailers for selling your product for lower then MSRP, then you should also be upset and take action against retailers selling your product above MSRP. While we have the choice what retailers to buy from, I think Pete also has the choice as to who sells his product. It would be easy for him to tell retailers that if they do not sell it at a certain price, he will not sell to them. Of course, this only works if people actually want to buy and sell his product. But so far, Tat is a product that many retailers want to sell- as shown by the craze caused by these limited edition cigars.
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Slavac 11:26 AM 10-26-2009
Originally Posted by Dukeuni:
My take on the pricing.

I have a read a lot of things about Pete Johnson. He seems to be a great guy, and someone who believes in B&M's. He seems pretty strict concerning MSRP, and I believe The Party Source got in trouble one time for posting prices far lower then MSRP for some of his sticks (It could have been about another manufacturer).

My take: If you are going to be upset at retailers for selling your product for lower then MSRP, then you should also be upset and take action against retailers selling your product above MSRP. While we have the choice what retailers to buy from, I think Pete also has the choice as to who sells his product. It would be easy for him to tell retailers that if they do not sell it at a certain price, he will not sell to them. Of course, this only works if people actually want to buy and sell his product. But so far, Tat is a product that many retailers want to sell- as shown by the craze caused by these limited edition cigars.
True, but bear in mind that the very definition of MSRP is Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price. The MSRP is typically put in place to establish a baseline worth (price point) for a particular item.
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