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TripleF 09:54 AM 02-08-2009
After smoking a bowl my mouth feels scorched, especially the next day.
I smoke from corn cob pipes.

What can I do to remove this feeling?


Thanks!
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FullBodied 10:13 AM 02-08-2009
Could be several reasons. You are smoking to fast; you have the bowl packed to tight causing a hard draw and in turn your puffin quicker to keep it lit. Could be the quality of the pipe, corn cobs will do this until broken in and a crust built up for insulation. Could be the quality of tobac. Less expesive blends use a lot of non tobac filler. Try a good briar and a non flavored tobac if your new to pipes. Some flavored stuff will burn hot.
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BigFrank 05:48 PM 02-08-2009
As said above, slow down a little. I experienced this often when I first started smoking. At first I was afraid to let the pipe go out, so I smoked fast and hard. And it left my mouth and tongue jacked up. Smoke slow. If it goes out just relight. I found the slower the better at first, plus with different blends you will have to adjust your smoking speed. It's easier to speed up than slow down.
Also I find that tobacco that is overdried tends to smoke hot and bite some.
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Curly Cut 05:54 PM 02-08-2009
if you're new to pipes, you may just have to get use to them, they are a lot different in feel (and flavors) than cigars.
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DrDubzz 06:01 PM 02-08-2009
remember my old adage

sippy sippy, no sucky sucky
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BigFrank 07:07 PM 02-08-2009
Originally Posted by RX2010:
remember my old adage

sippy sippy, no sucky sucky
unless your paying!!! :-):-):-)
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Curly Cut 08:28 PM 02-08-2009
i puff pretty hard and rarely get tongue bit or any severe irritation anymore.
when i was getting back to smoking the pipe more than cigars, my tongue took a while to get use to the difference in the way the tobacco affected it.
it's one of the things i tell new pipe smokers ,that their tongue will feel pretty "tingly" after smoking, especially with VA blends.
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Da Klugs 08:39 PM 02-08-2009
As an infrequent pipe smoker, this was one of the things that kept happening to me and causing me to shy away from pipes.

Solved the problem for the most part for me by varying the angle of the pipe in my mouth during the smoke and trying not to overheat it by drawing to hard or frequently.

My thought was the small orifice of the stem was concentrating the smoke on a small area of my tongue on the draw vs the larger diameter that the head of a cigar produces and the overheat my technique was producing compounded the effect.

Dunno if it was the slowing down or the movement, but it seems to help me.
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Root 10:49 AM 02-09-2009
Originally Posted by TripleF:
What can I do to remove this feeling?
Time, give your tongue a rest and you may want to try biotene.
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Dgar 09:57 AM 02-10-2009
Originally Posted by TripleF:
After smoking a bowl my mouth feels scorched, especially the next day.
I smoke from corn cob pipes.

What can I do to remove this feeling?


Thanks!

If your smoking a cob, pick up a pouch of Prince Albert, this is an over the counter blend you can pick up at most drug stores, its great blend in a cob (really)....It almost impoosible to get tounge bite smoking smoking this stuff.
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RevSmoke 06:18 PM 02-10-2009
Packing the pipe correctly and puffing slowly I like to do what I call the sip method - light sipping every 45 seconds or so. The best way to learn how to pack a pipe is to find a local pipe smoker to teach you. This will eliminate most tongue bite.
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TripleF 06:43 AM 02-11-2009
I loaded a bowl yesterday and it took me an hour to smoke it. I lit and re-lit about 7 times. I let the bowl go out in between each light. Didn't do much for me. I'm pretty skittish about trying a pipe right now........just doesn't seem to like me.
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WWhermit 10:59 AM 02-11-2009
The pipe is not something that a person picks up and gets the hang of immediately. It takes time and patience.

Think of this, though. Look at this room. All of these people went through the same thing. None of us would be here if the end result was not worth the investment. It's a learning process.

It took me about a good month of having a pipe each day before one day I said "This is what pipe smoking is supposed to be!" Until then, I wondered why anyone would do it. It tasted like ash, hurt my tongue, frustrated me.

You'll get the hang of it, and from then on it's pure bliss, and a very fulfilling hobby.

Take the time to learn to fill a pipe correctly. A little on the loose side until you get it. It's easier to tamp down a loose bown than it is to loosen one that's too tight.

Sip slowly. Don't get hung up on the fact that you can't keep it lit. It's no big deal if you have to relight. It takes nothing away from the enjoyment for me if this happens.

Enjoy the time it takes. It's supposed to slow you down, take a break from the fast pace of life. Take a book with you, listen to a favorite CD.

You'll learn. It's worth the time. And if it gets to be nothing but frustration, put it down for a week or so, until you WANT to have a pipe. There should be no pressure here. This is about enjoyment.


WWhermit
:-)
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TripleF 12:14 PM 02-11-2009
Originally Posted by WWhermit:
The pipe is not something that a person picks up and gets the hang of immediately. It takes time and patience.

Think of this, though. Look at this room. All of these people went through the same thing. None of us would be here if the end result was not worth the investment. It's a learning process.

It took me about a good month of having a pipe each day before one day I said "This is what pipe smoking is supposed to be!" Until then, I wondered why anyone would do it. It tasted like ash, hurt my tongue, frustrated me.

You'll get the hang of it, and from then on it's pure bliss, and a very fulfilling hobby.

Take the time to learn to fill a pipe correctly. A little on the loose side until you get it. It's easier to tamp down a loose bown than it is to loosen one that's too tight.

Sip slowly. Don't get hung up on the fact that you can't keep it lit. It's no big deal if you have to relight. It takes nothing away from the enjoyment for me if this happens.

Enjoy the time it takes. It's supposed to slow you down, take a break from the fast pace of life. Take a book with you, listen to a favorite CD.

You'll learn. It's worth the time. And if it gets to be nothing but frustration, put it down for a week or so, until you WANT to have a pipe. There should be no pressure here. This is about enjoyment.


WWhermit
:-)

Moments away from donating my pipes and baccy to others, I read this.
Thanks bro. Really, thanks very much. I will take your advise very carefully.

And those comments and help is exactly what makes this place, THEE PLACE!!!! :-)
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JaKaacH 05:21 PM 02-11-2009
Hey Scott

Don't give up on the pipe yet..
It might just be a tobacco that you don't like or its too wet, or the bowl is filled wrong..etc, etc..

I like to sprinkle some of the tobacco on a small plate and let it air out/dry for maybe a hour or so before I load up a bowl and smoke it. It seems to burn a little easier so you can get the little sips without puffing hard to keep it burning and then cause "tongue bite".

Find a shop that has some bulk tobacco and buy some small samples to try.

Once you get it going right there are some great smokes out there..Davidoff Scottish Mixture...yum http://www.pipesandcigars.com/scotmix.html
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WWhermit 03:09 PM 02-12-2009
TripleF, what tobacco are you using? This could be a major source of frustration.

Many aromatics are simply too wet to smoke before a drying period. Virginias, to the non-experienced smoker, also tend to bite if not treated carefully.

May I suggest, as someone else has, a pouch of Prince Albert from your local drugstore. It's a basic burley, with a slight nutty flavor. Some say it's bland, but I'll tell you what, it's perfect for learning techinque.

Burleys often smoke cooler than most other types of tobacco. PA is one you can puff all day and it won't bite ya back.

Fill the pipe loosely to the top, use your tamper (or finger) to press ever so slightly, until you just start to feel some resistance. Fill it back up one more time.

Do your charring light, tamp LIGHTLY again. Do your true light and sit back. If you have a full draw on the pipe (you don't have to *suck in* with difficulty), you know it's not packed too tight. If it feels like you're not able to keep it lit, tamp just a bit more, then try. This way you'll get a feel for how "springy" the tobacco should feel in the pipe to keep it lit.

Sip slowly, just enough to draw the smoke through the pipe. Point the pipe so it doesn't shoot the smoke onto your tongue, angle it up just a bit. Once your tongue adjusts to the pipe, you'll find yourself aiming the smoke onto your tongue to capture the flavor. Technique is more important right now though.

Don't be afraid to dump the bowl out and start over if it's packed too tightly. PA is cheap, the bowl cost you around .20 cents.

I'm glad you didn't give up quite yet. Give us a progress report, sir, and let us know how we can help.

WWhermit
:-)
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Seneca77 06:25 PM 02-18-2009
Hey Scott!

Sorry to hear you're having trouble with the pipe, but looks like you're getting some great advice here. The keys to a bite-free smoke are in packing the pipe loosely at the bottom and tighter towards the top (gravity feed the tobacco into the bowl letting it fill up. Push down 'til it's about halfway up the bowl, gravity feed some more tobacco in, push down 'til it's about three quarters up the bowl, fill again, and tamp so it's firm). While you're filling it, take a quick draw (without lighting it) and see if it draws freely. If it does, keep going. If not, it's too tight.

Secondly, smoke s-l-o-w-l-y. As others have said here, it's meant to be enjoyed slowly. You've seen me nurse a good sized pipe all afternoon at the Tobacco Hut - no tongue bite for me!

Next time you're at Lou's, get an ounce or so of his Alaskan Gold. It's not an aromatic, but a mild English blend, burley based. The sugars in aromatic tobaccos can contribute to tongue bite, so perhaps while you're experimenting with packing and lighting techniques, stick to a non-aromatic.

I wrote a one-page website some time back called Pipe Smoking 101 which you may find helpful.

Good luck!

- Bob
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TripleF 06:34 PM 02-18-2009
Originally Posted by Seneca77:
Hey Scott!

Sorry to hear you're having trouble with the pipe, but looks like you're getting some great advice here. The keys to a bite-free smoke are in packing the pipe loosely at the bottom and tighter towards the top (gravity feed the tobacco into the bowl letting it fill up. Push down 'til it's about halfway up the bowl, gravity feed some more tobacco in, push down 'til it's about three quarters up the bowl, fill again, and tamp so it's firm). While you're filling it, take a quick draw (without lighting it) and see if it draws freely. If it does, keep going. If not, it's too tight.

Secondly, smoke s-l-o-w-l-y. As others have said here, it's meant to be enjoyed slowly. You've seen me nurse a good sized pipe all afternoon at the Tobacco Hut - no tongue bite for me!

Next time you're at Lou's, get an ounce or so of his Alaskan Gold. It's not an aromatic, but a mild English blend, burley based. The sugars in aromatic tobaccos can contribute to tongue bite, so perhaps while you're experimenting with packing and lighting techniques, stick to a non-aromatic.

I wrote a one-page website some time back called Pipe Smoking 101 which you may find helpful.

Good luck!

- Bob

Thanks for the info Bob!! Yes, the info here is very helpful!!

My past couple of pipes have been a little more pleasing and less scorching. I am sipping and trying to smoke slower, but haven't mastered the art of an all afternoon pipe brother. I think a better pipe would help the issue a bit, so I am trying to find a cost effective option. :-)
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RGD. 06:40 PM 02-18-2009
Originally Posted by TripleF:
After smoking a bowl my mouth feels scorched . . .
Originally Posted by Da Klugs:
As an infrequent pipe smoker, this was one of the things that kept happening to me and causing me to shy away from pipes.

Solved the problem for the most part for me by varying the angle of the pipe in my mouth during the smoke and trying not to overheat it by drawing to hard or frequently. . . .

Try a Peterson "P-Lip" and see if that helps. The tip angles the draw smoke up and away from the tongue and helps reduce that bite/scorched feeling.


Ron
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dogsplayinpoker 08:27 AM 02-19-2009
The Hermit gives excellent advice. All I can add is moral support. I went a few years starting and giving up pipe smoking because I wasn't patient and had noone to get advice from. Keep at it... just slower and possible less frequently for a while.
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