Not sure if this is a good machine... but sure is cheap

http://sellout.woot.com/Default.aspx...816811bca68a4d

What say the experts?
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I notice that's for a refurbished machine...
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mmhmm... In most cases nothing wrong with that
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That's a quality machine at a great price.

Both my Baby Gaggia machine and grinder are refurbished and have served me faithfully twice a day for a little more than a year....
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I got a breville refurbished unit on woot a couple months back. Different unit but I love mine, use it 4 or 5 times a week.
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Espresso machine comes 2nd.

Quality grinder comes first or there will never be quality espresso. If you even imagine you want to make espresso at home, get a great grinder and a mokapot. Sez I.
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I have a burr grinder... but don't know how quality it is. (Is a krups... so I'm guessing it is a low to mid range one)
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ooops, forgot the grinder. You're screwed.
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