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OLS 10:00 AM 11-01-2012
A day late and a dollar short for everyone affected by Sandy.

But you know, this season comes around every year, and it never ceases to amaze me how many
people end up caught short when the chips are down.

There are many people in the Asylum who have weathered BIG STORMS. Many of us have never
evacuated...not once. Some of us have evacuated many times. I started this thread two weeks late
to provide a place where people can post solid survival tips gained over many hard years of tolerating
tropical weather. I only have two to start with, but I will think of other things that have saved me
before. And there are many here that know other things that have been learned the hard way.
Post em up. Next time a hurricane threatens, maybe we can top it so folks can read it.
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OLS 10:02 AM 11-01-2012
1.) When a storm is coming, freeze gallon jugs of water for a few days. The longer they sit in the freezer,
the harder they freeze, up to a point. This provides large ice blocks that resist melting in an ice chest,
much longer than cubes. Once the inevitable happens and they melt, you have fresh water in bulk. You
can also use rock salt and ice cubes to keep them from melting as fast, since they are sealed jugs.

2.) Fill your bathtub with water....take a square of plastic sheeting or some saran wrap and place it under
your stopper for a better seal. This provides flush water, boilable water for drinking and cooking, and water
to spit bathe with. You never know whether your local water system will be compromised, or how long it
will take to clean out. This water CAN save your butt.
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czerbe 10:10 AM 11-01-2012
Have Cash On hand for the times when Stores Credit Card systems will be down but will accept cash, and have back up of Gas for cars (which should be topped off)
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markem 10:16 AM 11-01-2012
3) Water can become contaminated, even sitting in your bath tub or your hot water heater (you did know that's a reservoir, right?). Have a water filter that can remove such as this one: http://www.rei.com/product/695265/ms...x-water-filter. Know to use it and also how to use iodine tablets for further purification.

4) Have a Red Cross (or equivalent) 72 or 96 hour emergency kit at your home and in all vehicles.

5) One of the best manuals for family emergency preparedness is the LDS Manual. http://www.green-trust.org/freebooks/Preparedness.pdf

6) Consider getting your amateur radio license. In an emergency, it can be your only contact with the outside world. http://www.arrl.org/ is a great place to start gathering information.

7) I have a Honda EU2000i generator that can run sensitive electronics (the "i" is inverter) for emergencies. I test it often. Do you? It can also be slaved to another EU generator to double capacity. We and our in-laws have the same generators and also have the slave cables.

8) put your home safe, with your important documents like insurance policies and several hundred dollars in cash, on the second floor of the house in case of flooding. Make sure it is fire rated.

9) http://www.citizencorps.gov/ is a great place to see about resources and training for all types of emergencies.
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Robulous78 12:22 PM 11-01-2012
I lived on Topsail Island, NC for a few years and from experience I can give these brief words of advice...

-Never hurts to have a full tank of gas or at least enough to get a few towns away... A car charger for cell phone also can be a lifesaver.
-Canned food is always a good thing to have on hand for obvious reasons (no need to keep cold,long shelf life)
-Boards for windows provide both protection from flying debris and security from possible looting after the storm and go up easily if already cut to fit openings.
-Having an evacuation route is good. Knowing the approved evacuation route for high water situations is a MUST.
-Know your location. General topography, Other bodies of water, flood planes and rivers can render roads impassable.
-Never drive in more then 1 foot of water unless the situation is dire. Electrical systems can short circuit and vehicles can stall.
-taking pictures both before and after the event are often important when dealing with insurance agencies.
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yachties23 12:34 PM 11-01-2012
The Gas thing is huge. It is insane what is going on up here for gas now.
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Robulous78 12:35 PM 11-01-2012
Originally Posted by yachties23:
The Gas thing is huge. It is insane what is going on up here for gas now.
Stay Safe Chris... :-) Hope you and yours are ok...
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yachties23 12:50 PM 11-01-2012
Originally Posted by Robulous78:
Stay Safe Chris... :-) Hope you and yours are ok...
The problem with NYC is that we are trying to get back to normalcy too quick.

We were all excited that subways were back up. Well they aren't. Some are, but in my case I can't get to where I have to go, so I sat in 3 hours of traffic to get to work today.

And all we are doing is delaying the process if repair. We really just needed to shut down for the week as a whole and give ConEd and whomever a chance to fix things...
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Conch Republican 01:17 PM 11-01-2012
Might be headed down there this weekend as relief for other FireFighters...they are asking some of us to do 72 hrs for the weekend. I voted in!
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Apoco 01:24 PM 11-01-2012
If you're in an area where flooding is a possibility - buy an axe and store it your attic. Hang it DIRECTLY in front of your entry so that you see it every time you go up to the attic (this way you'll never forget that it is there). When the water levels are rising and you keep going up you need to have a way out.

Hell - I live on a steep hill far away from anywhere that floods and I STILL have one stored up there. I don't wanna get trapped in an attic ever - that's the stuff nightmares are made of.
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sevans105 01:47 PM 11-01-2012
http://lds.about.com/library/bl/prep...2_hour_kit.pdf

Mormons have been preaching Emergency Preparedness, food storage, and 72 hour kits for years. They kind of have it down to a science. The link above is for a standard 72 hour kit, although if you have several of them (one bug out bag per person) several of the items can easily be distributed. Obviously, some of the items at the bottom of the list are Mormon (LDS) specific. My 72 hour kit has 5 tubos of Cohibas sealed in SealaMeal with an oxygen absorber instead of Genealogy records etc.

Additionally, something like this http://www.target.com/p/wagan-900-am...i_sku=10895110
can be a lifesaver. Not a generator, but will work for limited lengths as a power source and has the ability to charge phones as well (you provide the car adapter) In a tough situation, the ability to have communication is vital.

Lastly, in any disaster, the cell system gets overwhelmed with calls. Focus your communication on text messages. They get through even when the calls can't because they can wait for tiny openings in the communication system. They also don't kill your battery trying to call over and over again.
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Robulous78 02:06 PM 11-01-2012
Originally Posted by sevans105:
http://lds.about.com/library/bl/prep...2_hour_kit.pdf
IDK if its just me but I get redirected to page about LDS in general instead of the intended PDF...
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OLS 02:08 PM 11-01-2012
Jeez, this thread devolved quickly into a Sandy thread.....
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sevans105 02:13 PM 11-01-2012
72 Hour Emergency Kit
By Rachel Woods, About LDS Guide,
Notes:
• Update your kit every six months (put a note in your calendar/planner) to make sure
that: all food, water, and medication are fresh (not expired), clothing fits, personal
documents and credit cards are up to date, and batteries are charged.
• Small toys/games are important too as they will provide some comfort and
entertainment during a stressful time.
• Older children can be responsible for their own pack of items/clothes too.
• You can include any other items you feel are necessary for your family's survival.
• Some items and/or flavors might leak, melt, “flavor” other items, or break open.
Dividing groups of items into individual Ziploc bags might help prevent this.
Food and Water
(3 day supply of food & water per person
when no refrigeration/cooking is available)
Protein/Granola Bars
Trail Mix/Dried Fruit
Crackers/Cereals (for munching)
Canned Tuna, Beans, Meat, Vienna
Sausages, etc (“pop-top” cans might leak/
explode & Jerky can “flavor” other items)
Canned Juice
Candy/Gum (Jolly ranchers can melt &
mint gum might “flavor” other items)
Water (1 Gallon/4 Liters per person)
Bedding and Clothing
Change of Clothing (short and long
sleeve shirts, pants, socks, jackets, etc.)
Undergarments
Rain Coat /Poncho
Blankets and Emergency Heat Blankets
Cloth Sheet
Plastic Sheet
Fuel & Light
Battery Lighting (Flashlights, Lamps)
Extra Batteries
Flares
Candles
Lighter
Water-Proof Matches
Miscellaneous
Bag or Bags to put 72 hour kit items in
(such as duffel bags or hiking back packs,
which work great)
Infant Needs (if applicable)
Equipment
Can Opener
Dishes/Utensils
Shovel
Radio (with batteries!)
Pen and Paper
Axe
Pocket Knife
Rope
Duct Tape
Personal Supplies & Medication
First Aid Supplies
Toiletries (roll of toilet paper—remove
center tube to easily flatten into a zip-lock
bag, feminine hygiene, folding brush, etc)
Cleaning Supplies (mini hand sanitizer,
soap, shampoo, dish soap, etc. Warning:
Scented soap might “flavor” food items.)
Immunizations Up-to Date
Medication (Acetaminophen, Ibuprofen, children’s medication, etc.)
Prescription Medication (for 3 days)
Personal Documents and Money
(Place these items in a water-proof container!)
Scriptures (miniature ones are lighter)
Genealogy Records
Patriarchal Blessing
Legal Documents (Birth/Marriage
Certificates, Wills, Passports, Contracts)
Vaccination Papers
Insurance Policies
Cash
Credit Card
Pre-Paid Phone Cards

For those that can't open the link, here is the text
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sevans105 02:15 PM 11-01-2012
http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&keyw...A72-hour%20kit

Or you can just buy one from Amazon
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bonjing 03:30 PM 11-01-2012
The one thing I have learned is you can do it a little at a time $5 - $20 when you grocery shop or just go out. It will add up to a nice little pile that you can rely on. Also it's great to have "emergency" food or that type of thing but sometimes a little comfort food during an emergency can take you a long way, example a nice cup of instant coffee or a piece of chocolate.
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Robulous78 04:15 PM 11-01-2012
Originally Posted by sevans105:
http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&keyw...A72-hour%20kit

Or you can just buy one from Amazon
Thanks for the post sevans105... was just curious to see what it contained...
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yachties23 07:08 PM 11-01-2012
Originally Posted by OLS:
Jeez, this thread devolved quickly into a Sandy thread.....
sorry no intention on thread jacking.
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