come across these grade in their page

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what is HMF/HLF means?

grade HLF
http://www.atlanticcigar.com/All-Cig...al-Torpedo.asp
http://www.atlanticcigar.com/All-Cig...-Churchill.asp
http://www.atlanticcigar.com/All-Cig...ojo-Refill.asp

grade HMF
http://www.atlanticcigar.com/All-Cig...-Churchill.asp

thanks ya
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I'll do an educated guess (but it's still a guess)

Habano medium filler
Habano long filler
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I think that means "handmade long filler" and "handmade medium filler".
I'm guessing that because the grade listed on the Muniemaker brand is MSF and those cigars are machine made short filler.
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Jeff might be right here. I was guessing about the H part and Handmade seems more logical than my guess.
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:-)
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hurm.. make sense..
great,thanks guys :-)
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That's actually really cool they provide that info. I can't say I've seen another place that does that.
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Possibly "medium filler" is actually "mixed filler". Otherwise I totally agree with the definitions.:-)
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I had always thought that there was no medium filler? Thats a good catch.
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Thanks, guys. I hadn't noticed that before.
By the way, anyone have first-hand impressions of whether V.I.P. is a good value?
I've been giving them more and more business and been tempted, but there is just too little info about what the deals will be for me to drop $50 somewhat blind.
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Mixed and Short filler are basically the same, small pieces of leaf including stem pieces.
Medium filler is a term used by some manufacturers to describe short filler without the stem bits. Often these are trimmings from premium tobacco leftover from the manufacturing process. Private Stock Medium Filler is a cigar from Tabadom that uses trimmings from much more expensive cigars made in the same factory. According to them anyway.:-) Fuente Curly Heads are discribed as medium filler leftover from their premium production.
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Ehhhh, maybe not in that particular way. But many catalogs, hard or virtual, have descriptions stating, e.g., "Handmade in Hondouras", and also advise you if they are mixed filler, such as with AF Curly Tails. Also, the Machine Made smokes are normally listed seperately.

Furthermore, note that "handmade" has various meanings too. One completely handmade is selected, bunched, bound, and wrapped by hand. Yet it is "legal" to machine-bunch the tobacco and merely finish it by hand, and still call it "made by hand".
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Mixed filler is a combo of long and short filler and short is, well, just short fill so they are nowhere near the same.
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I don't know what it means but those Spanish Galleons are great smokes.:-)
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