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TripleF 06:25 AM 11-25-2008
I just read this article on the SCHIP Bill and how it more than likely will pass with the new president elect starting in Jan.

Article on SCHIP tax

My question is, assuming this Horse Poop passes, how long before we would see it applied in out daily purchaes? Wouldn't there be a mad rush on cigar purchases before it actually was applied to the retailers?


It blows me away that we are allowing ourselves to be taxed as was happening in Europe before we left over 200 years ago. :-)
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BengalMan 07:35 AM 11-25-2008
The thing about the SCHIP is it's been changed around so many times, no one really know how it will end up until the final bill actually passes. The cigar industry has fought hard and will continue to fight hard to get the SCHIP as low as possible. They have are achieved the lowering of the initial tax and removing certain things from the bill. My thoughts, sit back, enjoy a cigar and see how things work out. Even when it does pass, there will be a lot that will have to be done before it goes into effect.
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Bax 07:39 AM 11-25-2008
Soon... stock up now!!!!!
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Tombstone 08:01 AM 11-25-2008
Originally Posted by TripleF:
I just read this article on the SCHIP Bill and how it more than likely will pass with the new president elect starting in Jan.

Article on SCHIP tax

My question is, assuming this Horse Poop passes, how long before we would see it applied in out daily purchaes? Wouldn't there be a mad rush on cigar purchases before it actually was applied to the retailers?


It blows me away that we are allowing ourselves to be taxed as was happening in Europe before we left over 200 years ago. :-)
By the title of the thread... I thought this topic was about Obama letting the Bush tax cuts expire. TripleF i agree with you that the USA is becoming Europe. Our founding fathers would vomit if they knew what this country has become.
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Tombstone 08:03 AM 11-25-2008
TripleF, did you notice that you and I are always on the same threads and usually have the same opinion?
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Da Klugs 08:17 AM 11-25-2008
Originally Posted by Tombstone:
TripleF, did you notice that you and I are always on the same threads and usually have the same opinion?
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:-) (J/K- really)

Government needs more money. Just wish they would come out and say.. everyone needs to pay x% more vs the selective increases targeted at social reform or "sin".
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TripleF 08:27 AM 11-25-2008
Originally Posted by Tombstone:
TripleF, did you notice that you and I are always on the same threads and usually have the same opinion?

Yes sir. I have noticed. Proud to hang with you my friend. :-)
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Clampdown 08:31 AM 11-25-2008
Never for me. :-)
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TripleF 08:33 AM 11-25-2008
Originally Posted by Da Klugs:
Image

:-) (J/K- really)

Government needs more money. Just wish they would come out and say.. everyone needs to pay x% more vs the selective increases targeted at social reform or "sin".

Funny pic Dave.........very funny. Wanna snuggle? :-)
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mosesbotbol 08:34 AM 11-25-2008
Sin taxes are such a crock.

When has smoking or drinking become a sin? They certainly weren't went Jesus was alive... Certainly they can be abused, but what can't? I know.... just banter talk over here.

Only the sages may know how SCHIP will go through Congress.
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Da Klugs 09:00 AM 11-25-2008
Originally Posted by TripleF:
Funny pic Dave.........very funny. Wanna snuggle? :-)
Yes, with my former money paid in taxes... do you have it? If so, see pic above. :-)

Slightly off the specific topic but everyone should be prepared to pay more taxes for virtually everything. Every government entity; local, state, federal and their offspring programs will be looking for cash. If you have any, you are the target.
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newcigarz 09:06 AM 11-25-2008
Originally Posted by Da Klugs:
Slightly off the specific topic but everyone should be prepared to pay more taxes for virtually everything. Every government entity; local, state, federal and their offspring programs will be looking for cash.

Sounds like a good reason for more offshore purchases.
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Da Klugs 09:07 AM 11-25-2008
Originally Posted by newcigarz:
Sounds like a good reason for more offshore purchases.
In some areas... we live in the best of times. :-)
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neoflex 07:40 PM 11-25-2008
I hope this bill does not end up being as bad as it sounds for us cigar smokers. It probably will but I am hoping it does not make it so it's tough to enjoy the hobby. Otherwise I may have to downgrade back down to a 25 count humi.:-)
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CBI_2 08:11 PM 11-25-2008
Originally Posted by Da Klugs:
Yes, with my former money paid in taxes... do you have it? If so, see pic above. :-)

Slightly off the specific topic but everyone should be prepared to pay more taxes for virtually everything. Every government entity; local, state, federal and their offspring programs will be looking for cash. If you have any, you are the target.
The price of socialism. Anyone that advances or achieves is a target for theft by government.

Definition of socialism: Equality of misery or equality of mediocrity.
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hotreds 08:13 PM 11-25-2008
Do not get me started!:-) Image Image Image
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groogs 11:49 PM 11-25-2008
Originally Posted by hotreds:
Do not get me started!:-) Image Image Image
:-) I have been stocking up for the past few months, just in case the worst happens.:-)
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