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Internet sticks need higher humidity than B&M sticks unless you follow the rule of threes.
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Legendary!
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but then what happens if I order from a B&M that's also on the internet?

Wait, If I go into a B&M that sells on the internet are they still internet sticks?


I'm so confused :-) :-) :-)



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What is the rule of threes?
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got it? :-)
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I wouldn't go down that road, if I were you. Nobody knows what could happen, it's completely uncharted territory.
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My '08s are fully aged!! Woo Hoo!!!!! :-) :-)
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I can tell you for sure beetles will hatch at 70-75. Had a beetle hatch from a LFD SB#1 in my CFC humi which was in my basement. It is steady at around 70 but can swing a few degrees.
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They wick moisture from the air if the "air" humidity in the air is greater than that of the beads. In not so confusing terms, 90% humidity in the room with 60% beads on the table, the beads soak water from the air until saturated.
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[quote=sergeant smoky;1352209]. Colder air is unable to hold as much moisture as warmer air. QUOTE]

Not true.
I can attest to this as I struggle with my Aristocrat every day to keep the humidity down(living at sea level). I have to keep the temp above 70F to keep the humidity below 70%. Lowering the temp in the cabinet raises the humidity.

Perhaps in an evaporative system (refrigerator) if you lower the temp the humidity might drop?

If anyone else is having this problem, please let me know what you are doing.

Thanks
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Mayor, If you have x amount of water vapor in a closed environment, then lower the temp, the humidity will rise because that volume of water is relative to the temperature. It's what is supposed to happen.
To make an adjustment, all you need to do is dry your beads so they'll have more capacity to gather water.
Take note that these changes are not instantaneous. It takes lots of time (read weeks of months) to bring the water out of the cigars and wood. You're not operating a microwave, ya know?
Incremental changes require time and patience. That's what you want, you don't want to change your RH rapidly as it's deliterious to the condition of your cigars. You want water to come out of them very slowly and evenly.
Lastly, colder air is unable to hold as much water as warmer air. It's a basic scientific principle that doesn't change regardless of how you perceive it. If you understand how it works, you can use it to your advantage. If you want me to help you lower that RH, drop me a pm and I'd be more than happy help you through it. :-)
In your case, I'd lower the temp to your desired temp and then use Michael's beads or some sort of water scavenger like Damprid to pull that RH down where you want it. :-)
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My guess is Johnny has active humidification in that Aristocrat rather than beads, Scott.
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M/V
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T*V

M = mass of water
T = temperature
V = volume

If you assume the volume (or pressure) doesn't change this becomes:

M/T = RH

Beads simulate a huge volume, like having a tube connected to a large sealed room.
Real life is more complicated than this. I like Scott's answer.
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I kinda guessed that, Tom. He could bump down the set and forget, then use a bag of beads to pull out the excess water by drying the beads, sucking up water, and repeating the process till he's where he wants to be. I just missed a whole line of thought of two when I was typing, lol. I was even gonna mention Michael.
It'd be a good idea to check the door adjustment, too. There's lots of stuff to look at, and rather than babble on and bore everyone, I figured a pm invite would be best. Then I generally have a brother call me and we work together and get him all fixed up. :-)
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Trust me, there is no water in the humidor resevoirs.
Sending a detailed description to Shilala as to what i'm working with.
thanks for the offer to help.
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