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rrplasencia 06:51 AM 11-07-2008
recently recieved a pdf.doc. it's a certificate with a place to put in a name. it's not letting me make any changes to the doc. there are no security settings on the document. i just downloaded an adobe 9.0 trail which didn't help. any ideas? :-):-):-):-):-):-)
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poker 07:10 AM 11-07-2008
You cannot usually edit a .pdf file (which was the idea in the first place).
Print it, sign it, scan it and mail it back. Thats the usual course of action.
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elderboy02 07:18 AM 11-07-2008
Originally Posted by poker:
You cannot usually edit a .pdf file (which was the idea in the first place).
Print it, sign it, scan it and mail it back. Thats the usual course of action.
+1. The main reason people PDF reports is so you can't edit it. This works well when you are sending out a report on a patient or a financial document.
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rrplasencia 07:22 AM 11-07-2008
it's just crs platoon certificate, no top secret docs here, just trying to fill in the name.
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dunng 07:32 AM 11-07-2008
Actually there are Fillable PDF's... but the extension should be .pdf not .doc :-)

I'll check it out if you want to e-mail it to me - username @ username . com
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poker 07:34 AM 11-07-2008
I understand. Adobe .pdf files are usually used when a document is somewhat sensitive. Contracts, legal papers, proposals, estimates, etc.
That way the person receiving it cannot edit it to their liking prior to signing.

In this case, best bet is to print it, sign it, then scan it (if it needs to be re mailed.)
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rrplasencia 07:45 AM 11-07-2008
pm replied thanks
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SvilleKid 08:01 AM 11-07-2008
I edit my adobe files all the time. You have to have a full version of adobe, and the file cannot be password protected.

However, the font selection is generally limited to the font being used already, and is difficult to use larger, different fonts and NOT have the formatting get really screwed up.

There are actually several low costs pdf file makers out there that will open adobe pdf files, and by-pass the security protection that might be in place. This is little known. I use adobe, but also have two of the alternatives. Thus, be aware that adobe files ARE NOT SECURE, and can be changed, regardless of the document protection level that the creator may have put in place, especially if the person looking at the file is using a program other than adobe.

If you have a full version of Adobe (not just the reader), you can try clicking on the line where you want to insert your name, going to Tools, Advanced editing, Touch-up text tool. You will note fairly quickly that as you type in a new letter, it will insert, NOT overwrite. You will probably need to insert a letter, then delete a line spcae, insert a letter, delete a line space.... etc. Otherwise, the program will end up pushing the line past the margins, and possibily to the next line, and really screwing up the look. However, as long as you don't save the file with any screw-up formatting, you can always just discard the changes and re-open the original file.
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poker 08:06 AM 11-07-2008
Originally Posted by SvilleKid:
I edit my adobe files all the time. You have to have a full version of adobe, and the file cannot be password protected.

However, the font selection is generally limited to the font being used already, and is difficult to use larger, different fonts and NOT have the formatting get really screwed up.

There are actually several low costs pdf file makers out there that will open adobe pdf files, and by-pass the security protection that might be in place. This is little known. I use adobe, but also have two of the alternatives. Thus, be aware that adobe files ARE NOT SECURE, and can be changed, regardless of the document protection level that the creator may have put in place, especially if the person looking at the file is using a program other than adobe.

If you have a full version of Adobe (not just the reader), you can try clicking on the line where you want to insert your name, going to Tools, Advanced editing, Touch-up text tool. You will note fairly quickly that as you type in a new letter, it will insert, NOT overwrite. You will probably need to insert a letter, then delete a line spcae, insert a letter, delete a line space.... etc. Otherwise, the program will end up pushing the line past the margins, and possibily to the next line, and really screwing up the look. However, as long as you don't save the file with any screw-up formatting, you can always just discard the changes and re-open the original file.

yeah I tried that a couple times a while back and I really made a mess of the document. LOL
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SvilleKid 08:32 AM 11-07-2008
Originally Posted by poker:
yeah I tried that a couple times a while back and I really made a mess of the document. LOL
Yep. Its very tricky, and very touchy. Majority of my appraisals go out in pdf format these days. Unless it is a small change, and only a few places, i usually just open the appraisal program back up, make he changes, and re-print is as a new adobe file. Often easier, and I don't bruise my head by beating it against the desk!!!
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poker 08:41 AM 11-07-2008
Originally Posted by SvilleKid:
Yep. Its very tricky, and very touchy. Majority of my appraisals go out in pdf format these days. Unless it is a small change, and only a few places, i usually just open the appraisal program back up, make he changes, and re-print is as a new adobe file. Often easier, and I don't bruise my head by beating it against the desk!!!
Im gonna have to try that again when I get home.

The last time I tried, the finished product looked like the lights were out, I had my eyes closed, my monitor was off, and I was intoxicated beyond repair and I edited with my toes when I was done with the pdf file. :-)
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macpappy 09:28 AM 11-07-2008
What other programs do you have?
If you have Indesign, Quark or Photoshop then you can open or place the pdf file in a blank document, type where you want to type and then print it or resave it as a pdf. You may be able to do that in some other program you have (I don't think you can in Microsoft Office though).
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macms 09:37 AM 11-07-2008
Originally Posted by rrplasencia:
it's just crs platoon certificate, no top secret docs here, just trying to fill in the name.
I created this PDF certificate. PM sent.
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DBall 12:39 PM 11-08-2008
Open it and edit it w/ Photoshop. :-)
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bobarian 02:03 PM 11-08-2008
Most .pdf forms should allow you to fill in a field with Adobe Reader. But you will need Adobe Pro to actually edit the form and only then if it is not password protected.
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