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Darrell 11:16 PM 08-02-2009
I am taking my math placement for school next Monday and need to freshen up on Algebra. Can anyone recommend a book or website to in a sense "re learn" Algebra?

TIA. :-)
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markem 11:22 PM 08-02-2009
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/
http://mathforum.org/library/
http://www.mathreference.com/

are all good sites.
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ChasDen 12:03 AM 08-03-2009
If
X = the number of cigars you smoke a day and
Y = the number of cigars you have,
Z = The umber of cigars you need to buy this week :-)

Help?

Chas

Seriously, good luck, I hate algebra, Loved geometry though.
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Starscream 01:07 AM 08-03-2009
Not much of a math person, but if you need any help w/ English Lit. let me know.
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The Poet 02:57 PM 08-03-2009
Basic algebra is a breeze - it's once you get into quadratics that the mind goes "WTF?"
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TheBeard 03:30 PM 08-03-2009
Originally Posted by The Poet:
Basic algebra is a breeze - it's once you get into quadratics that the mind goes "WTF?"
What's so bad about quadratics? What's so bad about polynomials in general?

All of algebra is just knowing how to add, subtract, multiply, divide, and work with equations and inequalities. If you can move symbols around correctly and deal with fractions, then you're set. Sure, there are some nifty facts that "algebra tests" would like you to learn, but that's no more difficult than learning the basic rules to begin with.
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TheBeard 03:34 PM 08-03-2009
Originally Posted by markem:
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/
http://mathforum.org/library/
http://www.mathreference.com/

are all good sites.
I hadn't heard of mathreference.com before now, but I wouldn't point someone to that site (nor to Wolfram's site) for basic algebra help. The mathforum.org site seems to have links to good basic algebra study guides. :-)
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The Poet 03:36 PM 08-03-2009
Originally Posted by TheBeard:
What's so bad about quadratics? What's so bad about polynomials in general?
OK, O Mighty Beard:

2xsuper3 X 4ysuper2 + 6z(a - b over c) over sq.rt d = 7 :-)
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TheBeard 04:09 PM 08-03-2009
Originally Posted by The Poet:
OK, O Mighty Beard:

2xsuper3 X 4ysuper2 + 6z(a - b over c) over sq.rt d = 7 :-)
Poorly posed question: You've given me one equation with 6 unknowns. What's the question?
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The Poet 04:12 PM 08-03-2009
Solve for :-).

:-)
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TheBeard 04:15 PM 08-03-2009
Originally Posted by The Poet:
Solve for :-).

:-)
:-) = (2x^3 * 4y^22 + 6z(a - b over c))/ (7*sqrt(d))

:-)
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The Poet 04:18 PM 08-03-2009
Originally Posted by TheBeard:
:-) = (2x^3 * 4y^22 + 6z(a - b over c))/ (7*sqrt(d))

:-)
:-)
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markem 08:57 PM 08-03-2009
This one looks pretty basic, Darrell. I only scanned a couple of pages, tho.

http://www.intmath.com/Basic-algebra...ebra-intro.php

This one looks okay as well

http://www.mathleague.com/help/algebra/algebra.htm
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Darrell 05:53 PM 08-04-2009
Is this Algebra?

2x x 4 = 100

Where the x is 5 making it 25x4=100?

I'm not so good at Math, lol.
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markem 05:57 PM 08-04-2009
Originally Posted by Darrell:
Is this Algebra?

2x x 4 = 100

Where the x is 5 making it 25x4=100?

I'm not so good at Math, lol.
Yes. It is an equation in a single variable.

However, x is NOT 5. Here's the details

2x X 4 = 100

Divide both sides by 4 and we get

2x = 25

divide both sides by 2 and we get

x = 25/2 = 12.5
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Darrell 06:02 PM 08-04-2009
Originally Posted by markem:
Yes. It is an equation in a single variable.

However, x is NOT 5. Here's the details

2x X 4 = 100

Divide both sides by 4 and we get

2x = 25

divide both sides by 2 and we get

x = 25/2 = 12.5
So, if the equation is 2x X 4 = 100, will I always take the 100 and divide it by the number that was originally multiplied to get 100? In this case 4.
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markem 06:07 PM 08-04-2009
Originally Posted by Darrell:
So, if the equation is 2x X 4 = 100, will I always take the 100 and divide it by the number that was originally multiplied to get 100? In this case 4.
Yes, basically. You want to solve for the 'x', so you want to isolate it on one side of the equation and do appropriate add/subtract/multiply/divide until it is my itself.

Here is a slightly more complex example.

2x X 4 + 5 = 85

We want to simplify and getting rid of the "+ 5" on the left means that we subtract 5 from both the right and let sides of the "=" sign.

2x X 4 + 5 - 5 = 85 - 5
2x X 4 = 80

Now, just to simplify more straightforward, note that 2x really means "2 times x" so we can rewrite this as

2 X x X 4 = 80

Let's multiply the 2 and the 4 so we get 8

8 X x = 80

Now divide both sides by 8

x = 10.
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Darrell 06:10 PM 08-04-2009
Is simplifying necessary in all equations?
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markem 06:14 PM 08-04-2009
Originally Posted by Darrell:
Is simplifying necessary in all equations?
At this level of mathematics, it is a good thing to do. Here, we simplified in order to find out what the value of 'x' was, which is what we wanted.

Once you get to more complicated equations, you won't be able to immediately simplify to get an answer. Equations with more than one variable (the famous 'quadratic equations' of high school math are an example), you will put the equations into a certain form and then use a formula to solve the equation (more memorization :-)). Some times, the equation has more than one (!) answer, even in algebra, but work these things one step at a time.

btw, I didn't mention it before, but if you call your local community college or college/university, they may have someone who can help you plan out what you need to work on. At least up where I'm at, they will do this at no charge (in the hopes that you'll take a class - and pay tuition - from them).
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