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jaymz 06:34 PM 03-28-2009
Why can't we say the word ****** on the forum then?
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forgop 06:55 PM 03-28-2009
Because poopal will cancel your account for tobacco transactions.
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jaymz 07:01 PM 03-28-2009
Originally Posted by forgop:
Because poopal will cancel your account for tobacco transactions.
That's my question, how can I use poopal on cigarsinternational.com then? If i use poopal while checking out on a joe's deal, will my account get revoked? :-) :-) :-)
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BamBam 07:03 PM 03-28-2009
Originally Posted by forgop:
Because poopal will cancel your account for tobacco transactions.
I think that's why he's asking.

If you are making a payment using PP, and the person receiving the payment is CIGARS International, wouldn't PP cancel your membership. It doesn't get any more obvious that you're buying tobacco products than buying from a company with tobacco in their name. That being said if PP is serious about their policy thenm they would cancel every membership that buys from CI. I would assume a company as large as CI wouldn't put there customers at risk for this.

Does anyone know if PP's policies have changed?
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jaycarla 07:08 PM 03-28-2009
I don't have any answers here, I am just glad to finally know why pp was always disguised on here and not spelled out correctly.
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ECPrevatte 07:17 PM 03-28-2009
I order with P@@P@@ through CI.

It's funny because CI messed up my transaction it was so new to them. Then I had to contact P@@P@@ to get them to make sure my payment went though. I was reluctant, but the lady helped me out, and not one red flag went up.

I was kind of wondering the same thing as the OP. I still don't mention cigars on P@@P@@, but I have several transactions that have cigarinternational's name on it.
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ChasDen 07:21 PM 03-28-2009
I saw that last night for the first time :-)

I just checked poopoo's site and here is the official answer to the question when I typed it into the help section:

Question : What types of tobacco products does ****** prohibit?
Answer : ****** generally prohibits transactions for all types of tobacco products, including cigarettes, cigars, and smokeless tobacco due to legal requirements and industry regulations for online tobacco sales.

So I don't know :-) :-) :-)

Chas

****** replaced the actual service name.
I copied and pasted it exactly as it was on their site.
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BamBam 07:37 PM 03-28-2009
I guess the loophole is to say that you were just ordering non-tobacco products. Such as ashtrays and accessories.
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okieRob 08:11 PM 03-28-2009
Originally Posted by jaycarla:
I don't have any answers here, I am just glad to finally know why pp was always disguised on here and not spelled out correctly.
:-)
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ECPrevatte 08:18 PM 03-28-2009
Originally Posted by BamBam:
I guess the loophole is to say that you were just ordering non-tobacco products. Such as ashtrays and accessories.
I guess, but why don't all stores do it?
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lightning9191 10:43 PM 03-28-2009
I was under the impression that as long as the business was following all the regulations that PP was okay with it. It can't be sure that individuals are following the regs or checking birth dates.
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awsmith4 11:08 PM 03-28-2009
My thoughts are CI just uses PP for its credit card processing agent and is not held to the same rules as person to person sales
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ECPrevatte 12:23 AM 03-29-2009
I paid with my account balance on p@@pal. The CS lady at P@@pal looked through my payment to them to confirm they actually had my money. I am sure she was well trained, but Cigarinternational.com didn't send anyone a red flag at p@@pal and I am still using my account.

I have been a member since 2005, and when CI had a p@@pal logo, I asked myself the same question. Everything worked out though.
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borndead1 12:33 PM 03-29-2009
It's about time PooPail came around on this. They are missing out on A LOT of money.


Maybe they finally wised up.
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poriggity 12:43 PM 03-29-2009
I've never understood why they ban tobacco transactions.. Seems like there is a lot of money to be had by them that way...
Scott
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forgop 03:13 PM 03-29-2009
Sorry, I never realized they were doing transactions for CI. As money hungry as ebay is for money, you'd think they wouldn't care what you were buying.

We can probably thank our lawsuit happy society for this though. If 16 year old little Johnny bought cigars online because he used poopal, there are parents out there that would name poopal in the suit I'm sure.
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BamBam 03:16 PM 03-29-2009
Originally Posted by forgop:
Sorry, I never realized they were doing transactions for CI. As money hungry as ebay is for money, you'd think they wouldn't care what you were buying.

We can probably thank our lawsuit happy society for this though. If 16 year old little Johnny bought cigars online because he used poopal, there are parents out there that would name poopal in the suit I'm sure.
Isn't that sad how right you are. Talk about misplaced blame.
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