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Ace$nyper 01:38 PM 01-26-2009
http://money.cnn.com/news/storysuppl...pmap/index.htm

So do you think it's really bad?

Is it effecting your area?
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Tombstone 01:44 PM 01-26-2009
I cannot believe Michigan and Cali rank in the higher percentages.:-) I wonder why?
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Ace$nyper 01:45 PM 01-26-2009
I was a bit shocked to see the large lead FL has on foreclosures myself.
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acarr 01:51 PM 01-26-2009
I think Michigan and California are doing real bad. However, I think you could add in to the really bad Arizona. Phoenix and the surrounding area has about 70% of the population and the there are neighborhoods here that 90% of the houses are in foreclosure. The biggest things this state operates on is real estate and travel. Both are bad for bad economic times. Tucson is a little shielded with Ratheon and the production of laser guided missiles and the University of Arizona but who knows how long the the missiles will last. The University is looking at a $100 million dollar cut in funding and the resulting cutting of programs.
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BC-Axeman 01:58 PM 01-26-2009
The best place to be in a bubble is floating at water level. How many politicians can do that? Don't spend more money than you have and expect there to always be more. Same with the money lenders. If you lend to people who can't pay, for things that cost more than they're worth, don't be surprised and don't complain to me if they don't pay. Not my first bubble, here. Wont be the last. Unharmed.
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Tombstone 02:50 PM 01-26-2009
Originally Posted by BC-Axeman:
The best place to be in a bubble is floating at water level. How many politicians can do that? Don't spend more money than you have and expect there to always be more. Same with the money lenders. If you lend to people who can't pay, for things that cost more than they're worth, don't be surprised and don't complain to me if they don't pay. Not my first bubble, here. Wont be the last. Unharmed.
:-)
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gettysburgfreak 05:45 PM 01-26-2009
I know its effecting me. Can't find a job in my major and when I do find a job it doesn't pay more than 25k. hopefully things will get better sooner than later, seems like you cant even watch the news any more with out some bad economic news.
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Smokin Gator 05:52 PM 01-26-2009
I can tell you that it is getting pretty bad in Florida.
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BC-Axeman 06:08 PM 01-26-2009
It has been messed up in Calif. since the Clinton bubble popped. We recalled our Governor because it was so bad. Arnold had some good ideas but couldn't get them through our congress so it seems he not only gave up but went over to the other side. All of their plans to "fix" the problems are guaranteed to mess things up worse, while not even looking at the causes of the problems. If we ever get out of this mess it will be no thanks to them. Yet somehow I'm optimistic. Maybe there will be a culling and we will come out of it stronger. "Be prepared". I'm glad I was a Boy Scout.
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Thrak 07:03 PM 01-26-2009
Ironic that Cali and Michigan, the most "liberal" states in the nation, also have the highest rates of unemployment...

When will the people learn?!?
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Ratters 07:18 PM 01-26-2009
It's actually working out in my favor cause I can now afford to buy a house, but it sucks all my friends that are out of work and having a REAL HARD time finding a job. But yeah, all of the homes around here are either short sales or forclosures.
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Ace$nyper 08:11 PM 01-26-2009
Originally Posted by Ratters:
It's actually working out in my favor cause I can now afford to buy a house, but it sucks all my friends that are out of work and having a REAL HARD time finding a job. But yeah, all of the homes around here are either short sales or forclosures.
Yea i'm in the same boat myself, I kinda feel guilty doing better then ever when family and friends struggle.
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AAlmeter 11:03 PM 01-26-2009
Here in WNY, we've always been up the messy creek with no paddles.

We haven't suffered much from foreclosures, as a matter of fact our housing prices have only declined 1-2%, solely because we have never received the benefit of the real estate bubble. We are, however, hurting on the employment front. Over the last 30 years we've lost a good deal of our manufacturing jobs due to a heavy union presence in the area. We keep up our government services, which in theory boosts quality of life, but also boosts taxes and discourages businesses from reinvesting in the area.

We have been suffering because many of our previously thriving sectors service areas outside of WNY, and they've taken hits as the country drops.

Personally, I've been out of work since Halloween, and within the next month or so I will have to say adios to my house and move elsewhere. Looks like I'll be going to Alaska (as if Buffalo isn't cold enough), in order to pull in enough cash to keep the house out of foreclosure (I bought it a month before being laid off). Unfortunately (for me) I purchased the house with the expectations of being able to refurbish it and get some sweat equity. I'm nearly finished, but I simply cannot afford what it will take to refinish the kitchen to the point of making it salable. So I'll have to sit on it for a while and hope for the best....can't even rent the damn place at this point! :-)
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