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Zeuceone 12:24 AM 03-10-2011
What is the reason for the disposal of bands on cigars that the B&M does not carry?
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CasaDooley 12:28 AM 03-10-2011
Originally Posted by markem:
Sometimes the B&M doesn't have any sticks you really want to purchase at that time. Doesn't mean that you can't ask the owner/staff person what they like and buy it for them. I've made good friends by doing that.
Never thought of that, but I will remember it. Great idea Mark!:-)
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Miket156 12:58 AM 03-10-2011
Zeuceone:

The reason I dispose of a band from a cigar that was not purchased at that store is I believe its poor etiquette to show products from somewhere else. Why? That does nothing to promote the store you are frequenting. It may be OK to smoke a cigar purchased from somewhere else if you ask permission first. I think its a delicate balance. Try bringing a bag of Burger King burgers into McDonalds, sit at a table and start eating! Would you do that?


Cheers,


Mike T.
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emopunker2004 01:09 AM 03-10-2011
my local B&M does not mind if you bring your own as long as you spend $$ there. Usually when herfing there I bring my own, and purchase alcohol or food there, sometimes a stick or two. If i bring my own i usually tip a larger sum of money as well. YMMV
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NCRadioMan 01:51 AM 03-10-2011
Originally Posted by Miket156:
Have you ever thought of bringing your own cutter and lighter? If you bring your own cigar, bring your own supplies. Even if you buy something there, I wouldn't impose on the shop to cut a cigar you didn't buy there.
Its not that you can't use your own stuff. A cutting fee is basically a cover charge so you can smoke there not not exactly a fee to cut cigars.

One local around here will charge a $7 "cutting fee" if you want to smoke there but don't buy a cigar from there. So either way, they get some money coming in.
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mosesbotbol 05:03 AM 03-10-2011
One of the worst things one can do at a B&M is being boorish. Show some class and respect for the shop and clientele that visit.
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thecatch83 05:07 AM 03-10-2011
Now if we're discussing a lounge or club type setting where fees are paid, then by all means bring in your coolidor and toke away! Buying at least one single if you're going to smoke your own serves two fold.....you are supporting the local shop and in addition, you're replenishing your own supply.

In regards to the "cutting fee", this is analogous to a "corkage" fee finer restaurants will charge for opening a bottle of wine supplied by the customer.......usually between $20-$25.00
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Stephen 05:30 AM 03-10-2011
Originally Posted by md4958:
Not sure if its been mentioned already, but it is bad form to walk into ANY establishment with your own items and not purchase anything.

I always buy at least one cigar, and always smoke my own. I also make a point of telling them that I plan on doing that.

A simple "If I buy out of the humidor, do you mind if I smoke my own?" avoids stink eye later on.
Originally Posted by markem:
Sometimes the B&M doesn't have any sticks you really want to purchase at that time. Doesn't mean that you can't ask the owner/staff person what they like and buy it for them. I've made good friends by doing that.
:-)
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Miket156 08:29 AM 03-10-2011
Originally Posted by :
by NCRadioman:

Its not that you can't use your own stuff. A cutting fee is basically a cover charge so you can smoke there not not exactly a fee to cut cigars.

One local around here will charge a $7 "cutting fee" if you want to smoke there but don't buy a cigar from there. So either way, they get some money coming in.
Instead of a cutting fee, I would just buy some of their cigars. If i were able to engage one of the employees about one or two cigars they have in stock that I never tried, I might get a recommendation/suggestion as to which one or two cigars I might like based on what I already smoke. Or, ask about a cigar from somewhere other than the Dominican, which I normally smoke.

I don't like "cover charges", but I understand that there's no such thing as a free lunch. :-)


Cheers,



Mike T.
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JackSchwartz 09:16 AM 03-10-2011
Flynnster, first of all you should have been greeted when you stopped by. I apologize for that, no excuses. The first thing I was told when I got the job here is that every single person who walks in our shop gets treated the same. If you decide to stop by again I can assure you you will be treated right.

Second, no problem with you bringing a cigar or two with you. Stop by, say hello, smoke a cigar and hang out for a bit. No need to purchase anything right away, I know funds can get tight while you're going to school. I know that if we treat people right and provide a great place for them to smoke they'll be back and they'll make purchases.

I just added wifi to the shop so if you have any classwork you need to do you can bring your computer with you...of course you need to make a purchase if you want me to provide you with the password:-)

Please stop by when you get a chance, I love meeting folks from Cigar Asylum (except when I meet icehog3 on the ice :-))

Tom, playoffs are starting now. Our first game is this Saturday. Good luck to you and the boys.

Eric
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Lear31MX 09:30 AM 03-10-2011
Originally Posted by JackSchwartz:
Second, no problem with you bringing a cigar or two with you. Stop by, say hello, smoke a cigar and hang out for a bit. No need to purchase anything right away, I know funds can get tight while you're going to school. I know that if we treat people right and provide a great place for them to smoke they'll be back and they'll make purchases.

Eric
After reading this, and the other threads on B&M owner/cutomers. It sounds like you have a great place and your a ture BOTL. :-)

And I totally agree with treat them right and they'll be back.
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Flynnster 09:37 AM 03-10-2011
Originally Posted by JackSchwartz:
Flynnster, first of all you should have been greeted when you stopped by. I apologize for that, no excuses. The first thing I was told when I got the job here is that every single person who walks in our shop gets treated the same. If you decide to stop by again I can assure you you will be treated right.

Second, no problem with you bringing a cigar or two with you. Stop by, say hello, smoke a cigar and hang out for a bit. No need to purchase anything right away, I know funds can get tight while you're going to school. I know that if we treat people right and provide a great place for them to smoke they'll be back and they'll make purchases.

I just added wifi to the shop so if you have any classwork you need to do you can bring your computer with you...of course you need to make a purchase if you want me to provide you with the password:-)

Please stop by when you get a chance, I love meeting folks from Cigar Asylum (except when I meet icehog3 on the ice :-))

Tom, playoffs are starting now. Our first game is this Saturday. Good luck to you and the boys.

Eric
What a fantastic thing for a company/employee to do. I will for sure be stopping in for my next cigar purchase to you guys. I still would feel bad not buying anything and using your space, but the fact that you say that is acceptable shows how much service (idk if that is the proper word) means to yall. :-)
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md4958 09:57 AM 03-10-2011
Originally Posted by JackSchwartz:
Flynnster, first of all you should have been greeted when you stopped by. I apologize for that, no excuses. The first thing I was told when I got the job here is that every single person who walks in our shop gets treated the same. If you decide to stop by again I can assure you you will be treated right.

Second, no problem with you bringing a cigar or two with you. Stop by, say hello, smoke a cigar and hang out for a bit. No need to purchase anything right away, I know funds can get tight while you're going to school. I know that if we treat people right and provide a great place for them to smoke they'll be back and they'll make purchases.

I just added wifi to the shop so if you have any classwork you need to do you can bring your computer with you...of course you need to make a purchase if you want me to provide you with the password:-)

Please stop by when you get a chance, I love meeting folks from Cigar Asylum (except when I meet icehog3 on the ice :-))

Tom, playoffs are starting now. Our first game is this Saturday. Good luck to you and the boys.

Eric
Very nice Eric :-)
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JackSchwartz 10:00 AM 03-10-2011
If you feel the need to make a purchase we have some Davidoff Mini Cigarillos that are $.90/ea....just don't pay with a credit card:-).

If you need butane we fill lighters for free so bring your lighter(s) with you if you need a top off.

I wonder if I was around the last time you stopped by. I was on vacation for the last two weeks of February. Do you remember seeing an incredibly handsome, overweight bald guy when you came in?

Hope to see you soon, Flynnster!
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icehog3 10:43 AM 03-10-2011
Originally Posted by JackSchwartz:
Tom, playoffs are starting now. Our first game is this Saturday. Good luck to you and the boys.

Eric
Good luck to you guys, too, Eric....Hope see you soon, on or off the ice. :-)
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mosesbotbol 10:49 AM 03-10-2011
Jack Schwartz sounds like a classy place to do business in the Chicago area!
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N2 GOLD 11:52 AM 03-10-2011
Originally Posted by EricF:
All the local B&M's I frequent either by myself or when herfing, let me bring my own in but I feel it is only right you do purchase something while there as a thank you, in a small way, for letting you smoke there.

Luckily none of the B&M's I go to charge a cutting fee.
WOW, some have a cutting fee... :-)
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md4958 11:56 AM 03-10-2011
Originally Posted by N2 GOLD:
WOW, some have a cutting fee... :-)
Some establishments have a "cutting fee" if you dont purchase cigars from them. can be anywhere from $5- $25.

Sometimes it just makes more sense to buy a cigar out of their humidor. Sometimes (Stanza di Cigari in Boston is an example) the cutting fee is half the cost of their least expensive cigar.
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