Sorry if this has been discussed before: I tried the search function and came up empty.

Has it been discovered or known what factory and/or maker these are from? I'll probably bite the bullet and try them anyway, but just curious.
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In some other thread, I remember that it was suggested they were Perdomo. Personally, I can't tell. But, I'm through most of a bundle and they're a well constructed, medium stick. Worth the money - not a new cult favorite.
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I ordered these as well at the AB ones, today. Should get them in next week. I will smoke one ROTT
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I've purchased these a couple of times, churchhills and robustos. I found them to be very good smokes for the money. Cbid has them on a reg basis. To me I like the robustos better. I just Recived another bundle and when finished i Will buy them again with my next trip to the devils site.
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I have 3 packs and I think they are great. Never had a problem with burn/plug/flavor. I bought them to smoke at work. I figured I wouldn't feel bad if I had to pitch it. (Luckily I have never had to).

On Cbid, I've had them for under $1.50/stick for torpedoes or the massive 6x60. They really can not be beat. Now I can save my really good smokes for my porch nights!
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im fairly sure they are oliva.
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Both the robusto size.
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This smoke is a little to wet off the truck. Having some burn issues.
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